Product manufacturer recommends use of its product. Surprise!
Exactly this.
And what? so we shouldn't be protected because capitalism? There is a deafening lack of coherence here.
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Re: Pfizer and Biontech provide update on Omicron variant
#42Product manufacturer recommends use of its product. Surprise!
Perhaps differentiate a bit? This is not Tim Ferriss selling you a greens powder.
Re: Pfizer and Biontech provide update on Omicron variant
#43Product manufacturer recommends use of its product. Surprise!
Unclear why the cynicism is warranted here. They’re not just making a guess, they performed an experiment that is inline with a comparable experiment from non affiliated SA scientists to yield these results. Should they not run this type of experiment and make a useful and true recommendation to the public? Would that be a better more pure scenario for you?
No they should not make recommendations to the public, because they aren't a public agency - they have a conflict of interest. It's like a hedge fund manager giving public advice on stock picks.
Re: Pfizer and Biontech provide update on Omicron variant
#44It's not deadly enough for me to consider a booster, I'll pass on this supplementary shot https://www.marketwatch.com/story/who-has-not-seen-any-repor...
Omicron isn't the only variant or even the dominate one outside of South Africa. If you've already gotten the initial doses, why wouldn't you complete your vaccination? There's only upside to it at that point
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not deadly enough _to you_. I'm sure those who are vulnerable will thank you immensely for your compassion.
You are aware that while the covid vaccines protect against severe illness and death, they don't prevent somebody catching and spreading the virus?
> they don't prevent somebody catching and spreading the virus?
No but they do reduce the chance you catch and spread the virus
Re: Pfizer and Biontech provide update on Omicron variant
#46Not to hijack the thread: why is my post being flagged? I'm asking a genuine question! I was linking to UK Government data here [0] and asking about the numbers. They're not adding up. I want to know if my interpretation is correct [0] - https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsde...
Look all the way over at "Second dose", the age-standardized mortality rate is 1.1 per 100,000 vs 5.4 per 100,000 for the unvaccinated. 5x protection against death.
Table 1, in the linked XLS file for data through 24 September. You can see that it was originally closer to 0.1 (50x protection against death) but it's gone up to 1.1 over the last few months, I'm guessing as immunity has started to wear off.
Re: Pfizer and Biontech provide update on Omicron variant
#47Not to hijack the thread: why is my post being flagged? I'm asking a genuine question! I was linking to UK Government data here [0] and asking about the numbers. They're not adding up. I want to know if my interpretation is correct [0] - https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsde...
I don’t know myself, but this happens frequently. Any body can flag your posts.
Untrue, I believe you need a certain amount of karma to be able to flag.
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are aware that while the covid vaccines protect against severe illness and death, they don't prevent somebody catching and spreading the virus?
You are incorrect. The vaccine significantly reduces spread. That is one of the biggest reasons why it's being pushed. Please educate yourself about how viruses work. E: Ah yes please link to more preprints you scrounged up on Google to argue with the literal army of mutliple-degree-wielding epidemiologists.
Please educate yourself about how these vaccines work. There's a wealth of evidence showing they have minimal effect on reducing transmission:
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3897733 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.19.21262139v... https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34176397/ https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3... https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.31.21261387v...
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not deadly enough _to you_. I'm sure those who are vulnerable will thank you immensely for your compassion.
You are aware that while the covid vaccines protect against severe illness and death, they don't prevent somebody catching and spreading the virus?
Untrue, please don't use HN to spread your fakenews:
https://www.rivm.nl/en/news/vaccination-reduces-transmission...