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Pfizer and Biontech provide update on Omicron variant

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Re: Pfizer and Biontech provide update on Omicron variant

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Not to hijack the thread: why is my post being flagged? I'm asking a genuine question! I was linking to UK Government data here [0] and asking about the numbers. They're not adding up. I want to know if my interpretation is correct [0] - https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsde...

Look all the way over at "Second dose", the age-standardized mortality rate is 1.1 per 100,000 vs 5.4 per 100,000 for the unvaccinated. 5x protection against death.

Re: Pfizer and Biontech provide update on Omicron variant

#32

Not to hijack the thread: why is my post being flagged? I'm asking a genuine question! I was linking to UK Government data here [0] and asking about the numbers. They're not adding up. I want to know if my interpretation is correct [0] - https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsde...

They don’t like this devolving into politics, which they really need to get over because the historical fact (when this is all said and done) is that Covid was heavily politicized by both sides in a variety of countries.

Re: Pfizer and Biontech provide update on Omicron variant

#33

Not to hijack the thread: why is my post being flagged? I'm asking a genuine question! I was linking to UK Government data here [0] and asking about the numbers. They're not adding up. I want to know if my interpretation is correct [0] - https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsde...

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Re: Pfizer and Biontech provide update on Omicron variant

#34
post #14

It's not deadly enough for me to consider a booster, I'll pass on this supplementary shot https://www.marketwatch.com/story/who-has-not-seen-any-repor...

Not deadly enough _to you_. I'm sure those who are vulnerable will thank you immensely for your compassion.

Do you always get a flu shot?

Re: Pfizer and Biontech provide update on Omicron variant

#35

Is "First Shot" "Second Shot" and "Booster" the same as 3 "doses"?

Yes. Admittedly a weird way of communicating it but I think they're trying to accommodate those who are already confused. I personally think it's having the opposite effect.

Re: Pfizer and Biontech provide update on Omicron variant

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not deadly enough _to you_. I'm sure those who are vulnerable will thank you immensely for your compassion.

You are aware that while the covid vaccines protect against severe illness and death, they don't prevent somebody catching and spreading the virus?

Are you aware that there are numbers between 0 and 1?

Re: Pfizer and Biontech provide update on Omicron variant

#37

Not to hijack the thread: why is my post being flagged? I'm asking a genuine question! I was linking to UK Government data here [0] and asking about the numbers. They're not adding up. I want to know if my interpretation is correct [0] - https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsde...

I think you should see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVRfBhy5vGI

Re: Pfizer and Biontech provide update on Omicron variant

#38
post #14

It's not deadly enough for me to consider a booster, I'll pass on this supplementary shot https://www.marketwatch.com/story/who-has-not-seen-any-repor...

Not deadly enough _to you_. I'm sure those who are vulnerable will thank you immensely for your compassion.

Do they actually prevent transmission significantly? Is there a study on this? I am curious.

Re: Pfizer and Biontech provide update on Omicron variant

#39

Not to hijack the thread: why is my post being flagged? I'm asking a genuine question! I was linking to UK Government data here [0] and asking about the numbers. They're not adding up. I want to know if my interpretation is correct [0] - https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsde...

If you want to seriously discuss you should put which data points your comparing so others can also compare. When I look at that sheet and look at the rates comparing unvaccinated vs fully faccinated the death rate is lower for every age group when vaccinated.

* Comparing week ending 24th September 2021

Re: Pfizer and Biontech provide update on Omicron variant

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This is the scientific meat of the press release where it claims a 25 times neutralizing antibody titers against the Omicron strain with a third dose of Pfizer-BionTech: The sera were collected from subjects 3 weeks after receiving the second dose or one month after receiving the third dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine. Each serum was tested simultaneously for its neutralizing antibody titer against the wi…

It's interesting, this differs from recent results suggesting that boosting with vaccines derived from the original Wuhan variant is relatively less effective against newer variants like delta: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.12.21261952v....
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