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Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Post by dont__panic »

Integer wrote: post #116
dont__panic wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hot take: All routers completely suck right now, and most of them are built to spy on your network at worst and accidentally expose you to cyberattacks at best. There are two choices, the way I see it: 1. Invest in a decent router (probably $150-200 at least) and throw openwrt on it. You'll need something with serious CPU beef because openwrt relies more on software than hardware, and most routers use hardware for Qo…

You could try Turris Omnia, it has beefy hardware and sane defaults. Or some other solutions with OpenWRT pre-installed.

Thanks for this suggestion, I'll have to keep an eye on this the next time I need a router. Definitely on the pricey side, but given that it's fully open source, that's a con I can live with.

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Post by ericd »

imiric wrote: post #127
ok_dad wrote: post #27

So, what's the best wifi gateway with extra access points for a home that I don't have to screw with and doesn't spy on me or have cloud crap? My ISP sent a Google wifi thing but I'd rather pay a few hundred than use that for 10 bucks a month to rent that thing, and I don't trust Google. Edit: Thanks for all the answers, from me and anyone else who was looking! I have some good ideas from the below comments and hopef…

I'm currently in the process of moving my home network from Ubiquiti to an open solution with a few Mikrotik RBM11Gs to serve as APs, and will probably also replace my Netgate SG-3100 with pfSense with likely a PC Engines machine. All will probably be running OpenWrt, though if that's too limiting / buggy, I'll just use plain Linux or OpenBSD on them. The major benefit of this setup is that you don't depend on some m…

I've been considering replacing my EdgeRouter with a pfsense box (probably the Netgate 6100), have you been dissatisfied with your Netgate?

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Post by liuliu »

Hamuko wrote: post #64
vorpalhex wrote: post #2

Exciting! This should include native wireguard support..

I used to want Wireguard on my router. It was in fact one of the reasons why I went with an EdgeRouter X. Then one day, when I was away from home and actually needed the VPN, it absolutely melted. Basically everything on the router stopped working, and I suspect it was Wireguard since the router went haywire when I was actually using it extensively. Needed a hard power cycle, which I couldn't actually do. These days…

I sort of only want WG support in EdgeRouter as WG client such that my homes in different geographical locations can share the same network transparently. Is that still a good use?

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Post by james_in_the_uk »

stingraycharles wrote: post #68
Arnt wrote: post #40

Oh neat. I wish to declare that I'm a Mikrotik fanboy. My hardware is ten years old, doesn't break, and Mikrotik supports it on the latest versions, apparently without plans to ever sunset the support. Ooh aah.

Big supporter of Mikrotik here, it’s a perfect middle ground between consumer “crap”, and $10,000 enterprise network equipment. Rolled out a 10gbit / 25gbit network at home. My biggest complaints are: * Wireless is really difficult to get “decent speeds”. I also have my ISP’s router and a Draytek at home, these easily do 500mbit, and it’s nearly impossible to get my router board to do the same. When asking support th…

Top tip - if your Mikrotik APs will run OpenWRT, do it.

https://openwrt.org/toh/mikrotik/common

Standalone wireless on Mikrotik is bad. CapsMan is even worse as it seems to hobble some of the standalone settings. Mikrotik are good at engineering routers but bad at engineering Wifi drivers.

I tried every which way to get Mikrotik wifi to work well, at reasonable speed, without dropping packets when roaming. No dice.

Now I have three HAP AC running OpenWRT, connected to a CCR for switching and a HEX S for routing, the latter two still running RouterOS 6. 5 VLANs, PoE, queues, several forwarded services, Solid as a rock.

(I've said it now... massive network wobble likely on the way).

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Post by trulyme »

ahepp wrote: post #107
InTheArena wrote: post #11

I would really like to see a open source alternative that can interface with all sorts of different hardware to manage my infrastructure with a single pane of glass. Sorta Ubiquti - but leveraging things like the Unifi API & the new REST api on Microtek to get me out of vendor lock in. I don't think I have ever seen anything along those lines out there. Im actually happy with my unifi setup - but there are some thing…

I've always wondered if one could use SNMP for this.

Doubtful. Some basic stuff is supported across almost all devices (interface names, speeds, status,...), but more detailed info varies widely between vendors, their OS versions and devices. SNMP SET support is mostly a joke and not worth the trouble. Better use whatever API each vendor came up with.

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Post by squarefoot »

c0nsumer wrote: post #102
willis936 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought a used Ruckus R610 on ebay for a modest $160 (not including power adapter). I am extremely happy with the hardware performance and the stability and options of the Unleashed firmware. It says it supports a gateway mode, but as a power user I want a bit more control than what I would expect a WAP to offer. I use an EdgeRouter-4 running whatever the latest official release is. Having separate boxes grants me f…

FWIW, I do OPNsense on a dedicated box (Protectli FW4B) and then an R610 for wireless, with an eBay special EOL'd Brocade switch in the middle. A dumber switch would be just fine, but I wanted something with 802.1at POE and good VLAN support because I like to break things up a bit. OPNsense is darned handy, and I like that it does more than an EdgeRouter would, like terminate a Wireguard VPN. The R610 works wonderful…

> I do OPNsense on a dedicated box (Protectli FW4B)

Interesting, thanks. Looks similar to one I'm considering to purchase when I'm moving next year. I'd be using OpnSense too.

https://www.ipu-system.de/index.html

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Post by JeremyNT »

ctoth wrote: post #66
60Vhipx7b4JL wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

how about openwrt/openwisp?

As far as I understand, no Wi-Fi 6 routers actually run Openwrt. The only way to get somewhat open software on your Wi-fi 6 or newer device is to use Merlin's fork of Asuswrt. Merlin is pretty big on not making large modifications though, so, for instance, it's very difficult to get Docker running on the device because the default Kernel doesn't ship with a lot of necessary modules. There are some nice apps that use…

> As far as I understand, no Wi-Fi 6 routers actually run Openwrt.

This is no longer the case. Some devices (albeit not too many) now have working 802.11ax [0].

I know most about the Linksys E8450, which does require a newer snapshot of OpenWRT (it's not yet in a stable release).

[0] https://openwrt.org/toh/views/toh_available_16128_ax-wifi

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Post by james_in_the_uk »

beebeepka wrote: post #3

I've been thinking about going with Mikrotik at least twice but never pulled the trigger because I am sort of a chicken shit. Is it easy for a noob to setup things like port forwarding and vlans on a router/ap box?

It depends on your expectations of "easy".

When compared to consumer router devices, then no.

When compared to configuring enterprise networking kit using the CLI ... well ... perhaps. Mikrotik does have some short cuts / UI features. But if you want to do anything vaguely complex, you're going to need to put some serious time into getting your head around the way the system processes packets.

If getting to grips with how packets flow through different subsystems in your router doesn't really appeal (check out https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Packet_Flow) then there are better, simpler options which are still powerful.

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Post by trulyme »

sandGorgon wrote: post #20
beebeepka wrote: post #3

I've been thinking about going with Mikrotik at least twice but never pulled the trigger because I am sort of a chicken shit. Is it easy for a noob to setup things like port forwarding and vlans on a router/ap box?

yes. but more importantly, they are extremely popular - big ecosystem of freelancers. you can go on fiverr and upwork and get someone to remotely configure/manage it for you.

Curious, would you trust someone to do that? For me when it comes to network, my paranoia level is sky high. I would definitely not allow some random person to configure my network...

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Post by cycomanic »

ok_dad wrote: post #27

So, what's the best wifi gateway with extra access points for a home that I don't have to screw with and doesn't spy on me or have cloud crap? My ISP sent a Google wifi thing but I'd rather pay a few hundred than use that for 10 bucks a month to rent that thing, and I don't trust Google. Edit: Thanks for all the answers, from me and anyone else who was looking! I have some good ideas from the below comments and hopef…

I heard good things about PCengines APU products (e.g. see here https://teklager.se/en/products/routers/apu3d4-open-source-r... I'm not affiliated). You essentially run openwrt or pfsense on your own hardware. Alternatively, many people are now putting pfsense/opnsense on their own hardware. In particular thin-clients are very capable and some can be easily be retrofitted with multiple ethernet ports (however, prices have gone up significantly for some of these over the last year). The one thing you need to be careful with is wifi hardware compatibility.

Some instructions here: https://boratory.net/pfsense-firewall-futro-s900/ https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?resources/introduc...

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