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Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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So, what's the best wifi gateway with extra access points for a home that I don't have to screw with and doesn't spy on me or have cloud crap? My ISP sent a Google wifi thing but I'd rather pay a few hundred than use that for 10 bucks a month to rent that thing, and I don't trust Google. Edit: Thanks for all the answers, from me and anyone else who was looking! I have some good ideas from the below comments and hopef…

PC Engines with OpenBSD or Debian Linux. 100% open source hardware, firmware and software, not this closed-source "RouterOS" which is probably bugged.

I tend to use OpenWRT on Mikrotik devices, but I used a board from PC Engines, and I was was impressed by it. The hardware is very standard, and their support was good. I had a question about the max power the mini PCI port could supply. I got an answer and info on a change I can make that adds a capacitor to help in this scenario.

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Hot take: All routers completely suck right now, and most of them are built to spy on your network at worst and accidentally expose you to cyberattacks at best. There are two choices, the way I see it: 1. Invest in a decent router (probably $150-200 at least) and throw openwrt on it. You'll need something with serious CPU beef because openwrt relies more on software than hardware, and most routers use hardware for Qo…

Thanks for that, it is what I figured. I have a really old, nice, router running one of the WRT-like OSes and I really, really don't want to do that anymore. I have a small family and do not want to mess with this stuff. I might just bite the bullet and hook up a few more of the Google routers. I hate using Google, and don't trust them, but I probably trust them more than most other brands in this space. Also, I can'…

Yeah, I've been frustrated with the router space for a while recently so I figured you might benefit from my research (and likely bias as well). Too bad others in this thread downvoted me without responding, though -- if anybody can recommend a decent answer to this question that I didn't cover or explain why I'm wrong, I'm happy to admit that. I would really like there to be a decent router out there for my use case.

The biggest reason I don't use a Google router or something of that ilk is exactly what you mentioned in this comment: I don't want basic functionality like port forwarding locked behind some cloud account that I might have to pay for monthly eventually (or might get shut down). At least my current hardware will likely work perfectly until the hardware fails.

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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So, what's the best wifi gateway with extra access points for a home that I don't have to screw with and doesn't spy on me or have cloud crap? My ISP sent a Google wifi thing but I'd rather pay a few hundred than use that for 10 bucks a month to rent that thing, and I don't trust Google. Edit: Thanks for all the answers, from me and anyone else who was looking! I have some good ideas from the below comments and hopef…

I used to work on a product for secure small-biz Wifi, and so dogfooded my own product in my house. When that was over and I took that out of my house, I had my eyes on Ubiquiti, and it is an impressive ecosystem. But as others have said, it's out of stock all the time, and Ubiqiti are teasing people right now with their next-gen product which is available but also unobtainable. Eventually I picked the Asus ZenWifi s…

I'm not sure I would call Ubiquiti "impressive" after their recent bout of security breaches: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/03/whistleblower-ubiquiti-b...

Not exactly what I want to see in the device that can literally compromise all of my other devices. Am I missing something -- did this turn out to be nothing, or did folks decide that Ubiquiti has bounced back? This seemed really really serious at the time and turned me completely off from ever purchasing one of their products.

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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I used to work on a product for secure small-biz Wifi, and so dogfooded my own product in my house. When that was over and I took that out of my house, I had my eyes on Ubiquiti, and it is an impressive ecosystem. But as others have said, it's out of stock all the time, and Ubiqiti are teasing people right now with their next-gen product which is available but also unobtainable. Eventually I picked the Asus ZenWifi s…

I'm not sure I would call Ubiquiti "impressive" after their recent bout of security breaches: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/03/whistleblower-ubiquiti-b... Not exactly what I want to see in the device that can literally compromise all of my other devices. Am I missing something -- did this turn out to be nothing, or did folks decide that Ubiquiti has bounced back? This seemed really really serious at the time and t…

And that breach was from an insider?

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/12/ubiquiti-developer-charg...

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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post #43
post #27

So, what's the best wifi gateway with extra access points for a home that I don't have to screw with and doesn't spy on me or have cloud crap? My ISP sent a Google wifi thing but I'd rather pay a few hundred than use that for 10 bucks a month to rent that thing, and I don't trust Google. Edit: Thanks for all the answers, from me and anyone else who was looking! I have some good ideas from the below comments and hopef…

I used to work on a product for secure small-biz Wifi, and so dogfooded my own product in my house. When that was over and I took that out of my house, I had my eyes on Ubiquiti, and it is an impressive ecosystem. But as others have said, it's out of stock all the time, and Ubiqiti are teasing people right now with their next-gen product which is available but also unobtainable. Eventually I picked the Asus ZenWifi s…

>and Ubiqiti are teasing people right now with their next-gen product which is available but also unobtainable.

Any links or reference. Cant find anything with a quick Google Search.

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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post #43

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I used to work on a product for secure small-biz Wifi, and so dogfooded my own product in my house. When that was over and I took that out of my house, I had my eyes on Ubiquiti, and it is an impressive ecosystem. But as others have said, it's out of stock all the time, and Ubiqiti are teasing people right now with their next-gen product which is available but also unobtainable. Eventually I picked the Asus ZenWifi s…

I'm not sure I would call Ubiquiti "impressive" after their recent bout of security breaches: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/03/whistleblower-ubiquiti-b... Not exactly what I want to see in the device that can literally compromise all of my other devices. Am I missing something -- did this turn out to be nothing, or did folks decide that Ubiquiti has bounced back? This seemed really really serious at the time and t…

As noted in the update to the article, Ubiquiti was a victim of an extortion attempt from an employee. This is a pretty difficult attack to prevent.

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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post #27

So, what's the best wifi gateway with extra access points for a home that I don't have to screw with and doesn't spy on me or have cloud crap? My ISP sent a Google wifi thing but I'd rather pay a few hundred than use that for 10 bucks a month to rent that thing, and I don't trust Google. Edit: Thanks for all the answers, from me and anyone else who was looking! I have some good ideas from the below comments and hopef…

If you can get your hands on it - Check out the pre-release Unifi Dream Router. PoE (to drive other AP), Gateway and built in AP all in one.

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to work on a product for secure small-biz Wifi, and so dogfooded my own product in my house. When that was over and I took that out of my house, I had my eyes on Ubiquiti, and it is an impressive ecosystem. But as others have said, it's out of stock all the time, and Ubiqiti are teasing people right now with their next-gen product which is available but also unobtainable. Eventually I picked the Asus ZenWifi s…

>and Ubiqiti are teasing people right now with their next-gen product which is available but also unobtainable. Any links or reference. Cant find anything with a quick Google Search.

Unifi Dream Router. You must create a account on store.ui.com, then enable pre-release hardware in the menu options.

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Unify Dream Machine, it's constantly out of stock, you have to keep checking Ubiquiti website to get it. It has cloud access which is used by app to monitor or control it from outside of your house, but you can disable it.

We use UDM's at work and I really feel like they are half baked products at best. I'm really not a fan and we've stopped using them completely in new installations because of it and have gone back to MikroTik hardware which has never given us issues. I also just find the UDMs interface an absolute shit show to navigate and find things.

Agreed... their old edgerouter was much better. Hoping their unifi OS (containerization of their platforms on their hardware) becomes more flexible without the hacks people use now. Until then, I'll keep using my edgerouter...
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