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Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Does anyone know what the scripting support looks like in v7? Scripts have always been a bit awkward on RouterOS (I spend ages perfecting one that turned DHCP reservations into dynamic DNS entries). I'm hoping they have worked on this a bit.

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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So, what's the best wifi gateway with extra access points for a home that I don't have to screw with and doesn't spy on me or have cloud crap? My ISP sent a Google wifi thing but I'd rather pay a few hundred than use that for 10 bucks a month to rent that thing, and I don't trust Google. Edit: Thanks for all the answers, from me and anyone else who was looking! I have some good ideas from the below comments and hopef…

PC Engines with OpenBSD or Debian Linux. 100% open source hardware, firmware and software, not this closed-source "RouterOS" which is probably bugged.

Yes, this is easily superior to most options; Debian/OpenBSD/whatever is far more trustworthy than any commercial offering (and many noncommercial options), and hostapd isn't especially hard to set up - a bit of effort up front and then you can just sit on it for years with no more maintenance than installing updates (and even that can be automated with unattended upgrades in Debian). The result is a capable little box that will get security updates indefinitely and which only serves your interests.

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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I've been thinking about going with Mikrotik at least twice but never pulled the trigger because I am sort of a chicken shit. Is it easy for a noob to setup things like port forwarding and vlans on a router/ap box?

Nope, it's really not for noobs. Basics things you can get via click on other SoHo routers like sane default firewall configuration, NAT loopback or simple VPN setup do not exist here. Setting up a Mikrotik is more akin to setting up a DSL connection on 1992 Linux - it's all "technically" available in the UI, but the UI is just a clickable version of all the CLI complexity and you need to know network terminology to get to capability of a default SoHo router configuration.

Having said that - if you know network setup very well, then Mikrotiks are very powerful and allow for network setups that are much more flexible than consumer equipment.

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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So, what's the best wifi gateway with extra access points for a home that I don't have to screw with and doesn't spy on me or have cloud crap? My ISP sent a Google wifi thing but I'd rather pay a few hundred than use that for 10 bucks a month to rent that thing, and I don't trust Google. Edit: Thanks for all the answers, from me and anyone else who was looking! I have some good ideas from the below comments and hopef…

Unify Dream Machine, it's constantly out of stock, you have to keep checking Ubiquiti website to get it. It has cloud access which is used by app to monitor or control it from outside of your house, but you can disable it.

We use UDM's at work and I really feel like they are half baked products at best. I'm really not a fan and we've stopped using them completely in new installations because of it and have gone back to MikroTik hardware which has never given us issues.

I also just find the UDMs interface an absolute shit show to navigate and find things.

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Oh neat. I wish to declare that I'm a Mikrotik fanboy. My hardware is ten years old, doesn't break, and Mikrotik supports it on the latest versions, apparently without plans to ever sunset the support. Ooh aah.

Yeah huge fan of MikroTik stuff, all of it has been running flawlessly for me for so long.

Works great, the interfaces are a little basic, but they are extremely fast and absolutely work flawlessly.

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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worked for me. one suggestion though, get a serial cable, so in case you creative some too creative vlan config that will lock you out, you could fix it without having to reset entire box

Alternatively, make a backup before screwing with the VLAN. Then resetting the box is not as much of a set-back.

this is too. i guess ultimate solution is mix of backup and serialbt or serialwifi dongle. this is in case you gonna mess configuration frequently

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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I've got a few Mikrotik devices (CRS328, CSS326). Maybe I just haven't gotten it, but I find their RouterOS WebUI extremely confusing. Like go into three separate top-level tabs to assign a VLAN to a port. The CLI is okay, once you get stuff working and just need to duplicate/modify lines. Mikrotik's SwOS is alright and has most of the options you'd expect from a switch, but is missing the ability to have a human rea…

Yes, mikrotiks separate bridges, vlans, interfaces. If you want to set ether 3, 4 and 5 to untagged vlan called "Alf" with ID 11, ether 6 to untablled vlan "Bob" (id 12), and ether 7 and 8 to a trunk of both Alf and Bob, you can do 1) Create a bridge for Alf, and a bridge for Bob 2) Assign IPs for them (assuming your mikrotik is the router), and maybe dhcp pools, server etc 3) add ether3, 4 and 5 as bridge ports for…

I haven't looked at my config in a while. It appears I've got a single bridge, and ports get added to it with their VLAN tags (for ingress, I believe) -

    /interface bridge port
    add bridge=_bridge interface=sfp-sfpplus1
    add bridge=_bridge frame-types=admit-only-untagged-and-priority-tagged ingress-filtering=yes interface=sfp2 pvid=10
But then I also have to define the VLAN ID for the bridge (for egress, I believe) -

    /interface bridge vlan
    add bridge=_bridge tagged=sfp-sfpplus1,_bridge, untagged=sfp2 vlan-ids=10
The device is a CRS328-4C-20S-4S+RM. It seems like I am using the other recommended way. Which would make sense because I'm not really using the "router" part of the software, but rather configuring the built in switch chip to do its thing.

Looking at the text config now it seems quite sensible, and isn't far from SwOS, Linux CLI, or switch chip datasheets. But I remember getting to that point in the WebUI being somewhat confusing, perhaps due to the alternative in-CPU way you described.

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unify Dream Machine, it's constantly out of stock, you have to keep checking Ubiquiti website to get it. It has cloud access which is used by app to monitor or control it from outside of your house, but you can disable it.

We use UDM's at work and I really feel like they are half baked products at best. I'm really not a fan and we've stopped using them completely in new installations because of it and have gone back to MikroTik hardware which has never given us issues. I also just find the UDMs interface an absolute shit show to navigate and find things.

I'm not a fan, but surely the prosumer version has one! Due to system load being above 1 all the time it causes quite some heat, and thus fan noise. Crappy firmware, never fixed.

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Does MikroTik live in the same prosumer space that made ubiquiti products so popular early on?

I just bought a bunch of Ubiquiti equipment (UDM Pro + 10G Switch Aggregate + U6-LR AP) and I've been super happy with it. Putting sexy UI aside, the performance is outstanding and rock solid. Unifi really does unify the entire ecosystem, it's basically the Apple of network gear down the quality of packging. I love it. I heard good things about Mikrotik but their product line feels scattered and unorganized.

I've always found the Ubiquiti interface flashy but borderline unusable. Things are scattered everywhere to the point you need 26 clicks to get to anything and they keep moving things around (especially their awful cloud UI for the UDM)
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