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Class-action suit filed against Meta for facilitating Rohingya Genocide [pdf]

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Starting to wonder if the name became "Meta" so that the headlines wouldn't read "Class action suit filed against Facebook" or "Scandal involving Facebook".

"Class action suit filed against Facebook's Parent company, Meta" Easy fix. Just look at Google / Alphabet reporting.

But that's not what the headline says

Re: Class-action suit filed against Meta for facilitating Rohingya Genocide [pdf]

#53
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody below the C-level would have any real responsibility in a case like this.

Did accountants, engineers, and other staff, receive sentences for participation in other genocides? Serious question.

Not sure if a valid analogy, but don’t think engineers who designed and built autobahns or other infrastructure in Nazi Germany were held responsible for indirectly facilitating a genocide.

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Between the UN fact-finding mission saying Facebook played a “determining role” in the genocide, the Bosworth memo, and the shit ton of access we now have thanks to the whistleblower, how is this not a strong case?

I don’t see how Facebook is liable for the actions of other adults.maybe evidence comes out that Facebook actively encouraged it. But seems unlikely.

What if they just passively or inadvertently encouraged it? It’s entirely possible that the algorithms Facebook has used to prioritize content highlight inflammatory or violent content. Maybe in the process of maximizing attention they simultaneously optimized for showing violent or hateful content. YouTube has been shown to have done almost exactly that.

Re: Class-action suit filed against Meta for facilitating Rohingya Genocide [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is overthinking it. Mark Zuckerberg is the head of the world's most mundane tech company at the moment, so he changed the name and the focus of the company to try and dig out of this hole.

Not gonna lie, I always thought slightly worse of Facebook just because of the name. Not on purpose, it just seemed a silly name for such a large company. It's like if Toys "R" Us somehow became a powerhouse of a company you heard about all the time. It probably says more about me and my perceptions of social networks than anything else, and my perceptions of Facebook from the early days persisting with the name. But…

It actually took me a while to realize this, but some areas use the term 'facebook' (before the website was around), as a term similar in meaning to what most of us call a "yearbook"

Re: Class-action suit filed against Meta for facilitating Rohingya Genocide [pdf]

#56

Can we trust this news? Who is edelson?

They're the firm that won the USD $650 million privacy suit against Facebook earlier this year. They....kind of have a track record when it comes to class action lawsuits.

Re: Class-action suit filed against Meta for facilitating Rohingya Genocide [pdf]

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody below the C-level would have any real responsibility in a case like this.

Did accountants, engineers, and other staff, receive sentences for participation in other genocides? Serious question.

Some journalists and announcers for Radio Télévision Libre des Milles-Collines were given sentences after the Rwandan genocide. (I am not saying Facebook's role is at all comparable to RTLMC's)

Re: Class-action suit filed against Meta for facilitating Rohingya Genocide [pdf]

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody below the C-level would have any real responsibility in a case like this.

Did accountants, engineers, and other staff, receive sentences for participation in other genocides? Serious question.

I have no idea. I believe in Nuremburg trials (an exceptional and extraordinary situation far behind what this case claims) most of the legal power was brought to bear on leaders although we often say "just following orders" is not an excuse (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_orders).

The people who created this case want to damage the leadership of the company (who set the primary policy decisions), not engineers or other staff, unless they could find that an engineer worked on their own (and documented in a discoverable way).

Honestly, I don't think this case has even a remote chance of making it through the courts. The filer would have done far better to not ask for a enormous monetary sum (2X the GDP of myanmar).

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Will there be actual personal responsibility for management and engineers involved?

Doesn't that presume guilt a bit? The whole point of a trial is to see if there is guilt, and if so maybe which parties are guilty will be shown (in the case of a company).

Re: Class-action suit filed against Meta for facilitating Rohingya Genocide [pdf]

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Can we trust this news? Who is edelson?

Edleson is Counsel for Plaintiff and the Proposed Class, the Plaintiff in the Complaint that's linked to.

Are you asking if the company that created this document actually filed it?

Here's some news about it

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/06/rohingya-...

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/your-profit-fuelled-genoc...

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