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Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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The problem is not the content of the video, crypto or not. The problem is not that YT moderates aggressively (it doesn't do enough IMHO) or even how it moderates. The problem is that there is no serious appeals process, and no third party oversight of moderation decisions. This is true for all the big platforms. How do we fix that, IDK, but probably at the government level.

How does the government do it better? And why is it the government business to step in?

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Google famously sucks at customer service, mostly because they've figured that they'd have to pay a moderation team more money than whatever they'll lose from the few and far between problem cases there might be. There is no fixing that without massive corporate reorganization, which won't be voluntary, and thus will take 10x the time with worse results. At this point this is just the Google way to do things, and mak…

The problem is their monopoly power over video distribution on the internet: disgruntled users have nowhere else to go. All alternatives are stifled by the monopoly.

There is no monopoly, the users are simply not using it. This is a bad take

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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How do these things work in the physical world? I always thought we had protections that when someone runs a public service (eg. a restaurant or a supermarket), they can't just turn people away they want for "any reason". But I was never confident this is true (and sure, it depends on the local laws). Eg. imagine there being the only supermarket in your area where the security person (or the branch manager, whoever)…

It is completely legal for businesses to deny service as long as it's not a protected class. I, as a freelancer, refuse to work with certain "difficult" clients at my sole discretion for example.

As a freelancer, you are usually not working with "the public".

A bunch of professions require special licensing to be able to deal with the public (supermarkets included, but even one-man professions like public notaries in some countries), and while there is no similar legislation for internet "places", we can easily establish de-facto public services (which most social networks are).

So, if you've got an open shop (retail space), can you forbid someone from entering for "any reason"? Eg. "I dislike your hairstyle" is a reason.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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I've been paying for YouTube Premium for years. I pay for YouTube TV. I pay for Google Photos. I pay for Google Apps for Business. In all, I pay Google north of $1,000 every year. Whether Google likes it or not, I AM their customer.

If you don't like them, it's time to look for a comparable competitor. If there aren't any then this is an object lesson on why there are pending anti-trust suits.

> If there aren't any then this is an object lesson on why there are pending anti-trust suits

I don't think anyone here is arguing with that - it's a pretty widely accepted fact that Youtube has a hegemony (see: near-monopoly) in the space.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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We don't need the government to step in, we need another video streaming company to come in and really compete with Youtube. The problem is that right now, Youtube has no direct competitors. Sure there is Vimeo and Rumble, but both aren't big enough to really threaten Youtube's bottom line. The Rumble SPAC deal is interesting because it seems they may be the first company to have the capital to compete with Youtube.…

"We don't need the government to step in, we need another video streaming company to come in and really compete with Youtube. The problem is that right now, Youtube has no direct competitors" This is incredibly naive. All that would happen is both services would use similar automated systems for moderation - it is cheaper for them. They would have no incentive to provide good support. We need regulations that require…

An easy way to provide good support would be for youtube to charge the content up-loaders for a small fee. That would be a source of revenue for them to provide support in return for monetary value. Else there is simply no incentive. Introducing regulations for every digital human interaction is a waste of taxpayers money and incredibly naive way of thinking.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Update: 3 hours after posting and being on the hacker news front page: Automated email out of the blue: "We’re pleased to let you know that we’ve recently reviewed your YouTube account, and after taking another look, we can confirm that it is not in violation of our Terms of Service. We have lifted the suspension of your account, and it is once again active and operational." Thanks hacker news for voting this up and…

Viral social network justice

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Update: 3 hours after posting and being on the hacker news front page: Automated email out of the blue: "We’re pleased to let you know that we’ve recently reviewed your YouTube account, and after taking another look, we can confirm that it is not in violation of our Terms of Service. We have lifted the suspension of your account, and it is once again active and operational." Thanks hacker news for voting this up and…

Ah, the classic. In order for your issue to be resolved you have to make the news. Really sad how this applies to many/most online services.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Update: 3 hours after posting and being on the hacker news front page: Automated email out of the blue: "We’re pleased to let you know that we’ve recently reviewed your YouTube account, and after taking another look, we can confirm that it is not in violation of our Terms of Service. We have lifted the suspension of your account, and it is once again active and operational." Thanks hacker news for voting this up and…

It’s funny how Google’s automated system will flag a small video like yours but I see tons of crypto scams on SpaceX imposter live feeds with thousands of viewers

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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There's Rumble, Odysee, Bitchute, Peertube, etc. Just post it there.

More Plates More Dates, a workout science YouTuber who sometimes talks about 'enhancement', recently got banned off of Bitchute. So it isn't a bastion either.

Does he talk about that in one of his videos? I'm curious to hear more. It looks like there is still a bitchute page up with his brand and videos.
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