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Magnus Carlsen wins longest world chess championship game of all time

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Re: Magnus Carlsen wins longest world chess championship game of all time

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But there were only two decisive games in the match against Karjakin. So 22 of the last 24 classical world championship games were draws (27 out of 30 if we count the current match). Even Magnus himself has said that he thinks it is a little dull.

Even if the game today ended up with a draw after move 60,it still would have been a banger of a game. The result doesn't matter, it's how they got there.

I get what you're saying, but result matters a lot still.

Re: Magnus Carlsen wins longest world chess championship game of all time

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Bit of a spoiler :( I prefer to watch analysis of games from YouTubers like Agadmator or Jerry from Chessnetwork and discover who the winner was by watching the game. I wonder if these long games are not particularly helpful. Most chess final games end in draws as players are reluctant to create an imbalance and instead play it safe. There tends to be more exciting games played in games with a shorter time limit. I'm…

And unfortunate choice of news outlet. As a developer, I can't help mentioning how baffling it is part of the chess community keeps using a proprietary website filled to the brim on dark patterns while a better and free as in freedom alternative is available.

Do you use both? I regularly use both and there is definitely some aspects that li is not better.

Re: Magnus Carlsen wins longest world chess championship game of all time

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post #55

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I think that chess.com pays some people to use their website on streams, etc. Although Lichess isn't perfect and it's kinda annoying. One of the bad things about Lichess is how unrealistically inflated their ratings are; 2100 on Lichess is equivalent to about 1800 on Chess.com. Chess.com is much more similar to the FIDE rating and other real-world systems. Lichess is just super inflated for some reason and it makes i…

Just forego pathetic chess.com and fide ratings, lichess is the best thing that happened to chess since castling.

Totally agree! Here’s why: https://travelhead.medium.com/rampant-cheating-on-chess-com-...

Re: Magnus Carlsen wins longest world chess championship game of all time

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post #110

Genuinely enjoyable and timely game. Out of prep early, machine evaluations useless throughout, plenty to play for and Magnus's quality and stamina showed. I'm of the opinion that there's nothing to gain from fans having engines open during a game, despite working in sports analytics and ostensibly being on the side of the machines. Obviously engines have a lot to say about the modern game, and the match so far had c…

I also like Svindler's et al. commentary better because they don't resort to computer analysis. They explore ideas on the chessboard from the human point of view and that makes their analysis much better than what you see on chess.com or chess24.

Re: Magnus Carlsen wins longest world chess championship game of all time

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Bit of a spoiler :( I prefer to watch analysis of games from YouTubers like Agadmator or Jerry from Chessnetwork and discover who the winner was by watching the game. I wonder if these long games are not particularly helpful. Most chess final games end in draws as players are reluctant to create an imbalance and instead play it safe. There tends to be more exciting games played in games with a shorter time limit. I'm…

>I'm not advocating bullet but perhaps they could try 30 minute matches instead?

Other time controls is already a thing. Personally a huge rapid fan. I think Fisher was right. The problem is just prep and theory. If we still have classical time but chess960 so there isn't 20 moves of theory memorized.

Re: Magnus Carlsen wins longest world chess championship game of all time

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post #129

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It's because there's a very hard working person focused on making great software without relying on profitable privacy abuse. Go donate to them.

Sorry, I meant to ask what makes it so good.

The study and game analysis features in lichess are waaay ahead anything in chess.com. The only thing chess.com does better is having more content, lessons, etc. But you're probably better off buying courses in chessable, reading books and getting a good coach anyway.

Re: Magnus Carlsen wins longest world chess championship game of all time

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post #42

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And unfortunate choice of news outlet. As a developer, I can't help mentioning how baffling it is part of the chess community keeps using a proprietary website filled to the brim on dark patterns while a better and free as in freedom alternative is available.

I think that chess.com pays some people to use their website on streams, etc. Although Lichess isn't perfect and it's kinda annoying. One of the bad things about Lichess is how unrealistically inflated their ratings are; 2100 on Lichess is equivalent to about 1800 on Chess.com. Chess.com is much more similar to the FIDE rating and other real-world systems. Lichess is just super inflated for some reason and it makes i…

That's not exactly true. chess.com matches closer to FIDE in the 1400-2000 range and lichess matches in the 2000+ range, whereas chess.com gets inflated in that range. All in all, they are all different systems with different player bases.
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