I don't experience these issues, but some of the Lion eye candy is downright wall-bangingly stupid. I want a vegan option for iCal.
FWIW, I've completely given up on iCal in favor of Fantastical.
OS X Lion: Apple’s Vista moment
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Re: OS X Lion: Apple’s Vista moment
#62I upgraded my Macbook from Snow Leopard to Lion, then gave it to the girlfriend. She'd never used a Mac before. She didn't even notice that the scrolling was the opposite way round to other devices. Not until I pointed it out to her after she'd been using it for a while. I now use a Lenovo Thinkpad T420 with Ubuntu instead. It's come a hell of a long way over the past few years.
I'm having the same experience. I got a 2011 Air (my first Mac) and Lion seems pretty decent. Scrolling feels natural, and everything seems to work as it should. My only complaints are the keyboard (as a programmer I really miss home/end/page up/page down), and that I can't reopen closed tabs in Safari.
Reopen closed tabs is, afaik, Command-z
Re: OS X Lion: Apple’s Vista moment
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
why else would these blatant multi-monitor issues exist if not to intentionally hurt me? I'm using Lion with multiple monitors, too, and have been annoyed by this. But the company that sells https://www.apple.com/displays/ definitely didn't do this to intentionally hurt users with multiple monitors. My assumption is that, because of the dramatic changes to the desktop workflow in Lion, they needed to cut some feature…
Hah! I don't actually believe it was to "hurt" anyone, It was just a bit of hyperbole. I do, however, think that Apple's vision for the future of desktop computing is sans multiple monitors.
> I do, however, think that Apple's vision for the future of desktop computing is sans multiple monitors.
Because they fudged support in the initial release of Lion? Get real. If you're so effected by it, downgrade until there's an update that fixes it. But don't assume that the workstation of choice among graphic artists is going to completely drop multi-monitor support just because it isn't exactly how you want it right at release.
Re: OS X Lion: Apple’s Vista moment
#64First, I think that to be fair, if you're going to say someone is having a "Vista Moment", they have to have bet a significant chunk of the company on the OS. When iOS 7 blows up, talk about Apple's "Vista Moment". Second, I think there's an implication here that prior releases of OS X have been great. They have not been great. Snow Leopard was solid, because that was its only goal. Much of what Apple has attempted w…
This is an interesting perspective.
Come to think of it, Leopard did frustrate me a lot. I think I just got really fat and happy on Snow Leopard, and now that rug has been ripped away from me.
Re: OS X Lion: Apple’s Vista moment
#65It seems like the guy is just trolling/venting, but I've had the same thoughts of "Apple's Vista". I don't want to add to alarmist dirt tossing, but I've been running Lion since the first public betas. My thoughts each release as it evolved, long before Jobs resigned, were "I don't think Jobs is around anymore, if he were, he wouldn't let this crap go". LaunchPad, Mission Control -- these things were neat at first, b…
There's a lot of nice under-the-hood stuff (separating stuff into processes, autosave, that kind of stuff), but the UI doesn't look compelling.
Re: OS X Lion: Apple’s Vista moment
#66Some issues I've noticed with Lion (on shiny new iMac hardware, fresh out of the box):
- Can't install XCode 3.2.6 without a workaround (I need to be on the same version of XCode as my co-workers). I had to use this:
http://catacombae.blogspot.com/2011/07/installing-xcode-326-...
- Awful flash support in Chrome (browser of choice) on day one. Now working thankfully. If I loaded up a new tab in Chrome that used flash, literally the entire tab was transparent (wouldn't render at all). It was nice that flash-based ads wouldn't render though ;-) looked like a newspaper after someone cut out a few coupons.
- Spotlight couldn't even find pre-installed applications (e.g. Safari). Took a few days for this to work itself out.
- Finder was completely screwed. Had to go hunting for "Macintosh HD" and manually add a shortcut in the left pane in Finder (needed to look into the hard drive directly to rectify the XCode issue above).
- NTFS USB drives (MS Windows file format) no longer supported at all. This worked fine in Snow Leopard. Incredibly irritating, as I intended using my USB drive to move over files from a Snow Leopard machine. Disk utility refuses to mount the USB drive.
All this made for a poor out-of-box experience. Would love to have the option of getting the same new iMac, except running Snow Leopard.
Re: OS X Lion: Apple’s Vista moment
#67I upgraded my Macbook from Snow Leopard to Lion, then gave it to the girlfriend. She'd never used a Mac before. She didn't even notice that the scrolling was the opposite way round to other devices. Not until I pointed it out to her after she'd been using it for a while. I now use a Lenovo Thinkpad T420 with Ubuntu instead. It's come a hell of a long way over the past few years.
I'm having the same experience. I got a 2011 Air (my first Mac) and Lion seems pretty decent. Scrolling feels natural, and everything seems to work as it should. My only complaints are the keyboard (as a programmer I really miss home/end/page up/page down), and that I can't reopen closed tabs in Safari.
fn+arrow keys do home/end/page up/page down.
Re: OS X Lion: Apple’s Vista moment
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would have to disagree. Have experienced at least 5 of the things that he mentions on two separate Macs. Address book, which he doesn't mention, has also been redesigned and had a number of very useful features removed.
Which five things? Also, did you do a clean install recently, which would indicate that configurations should still be fine, or did you upgrade from a previous OS, which could (but shouldn't) have an unusual/broken configuration?
Sticking to his article:
"Mail crashes all the time." "Fullscreen apps have a habit of just vanishing. They’re running, but they’re not showing." "Finder periodically decides you don’t need to see all your windows any more." "iTunes boot time is measured in aeons." "The “Something has crashed, send a report to Apple” window might as well be your Desktop Picture."
Happen to agree that Launchpad and Mission Control aren't great but that's just my personal opinion.
On both machines I upgraded from the previous OS.
Re: OS X Lion: Apple’s Vista moment
#69He forgot to mention how completely and randomly broken Launchctl is under Lion. Unless you are root, about half the time when you invoke launchctl load, you get a crash with debug output. And any vagrant user can tell you how frustratingly off-kilter NFS has become.
He also forgot to mention that a very large number of people were getting kernel panics from using flash in a browser. How that regression got out the door, I will never understand. It does not inspire confidence.
Re: OS X Lion: Apple’s Vista moment
#70People who are lamenting the loss of "Front Row" should spend an hour and download, install, and configure PLEX.
It is, without a doubt, a great piece of software. Just being able to serve _all_ my movies to my iPad (without having to jump through iTunes HomeSharing issues), Android phone, or stream through the internet (something that iTunes won't even do).