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Here in Illinois. Weed became legal at suspiciously the same time that opiates became... 1) more difficult to get due to changes in various regulations. 2) heavily propagandized against. This is obviously an attempt to shift a big revenue stream from the pharmacorps to a new pie. That new pie is divided between the state (licensing fees, taxes) and whoever can get permission to grow and sell (Governor Pritzker and hi…
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Not based on fact? Which facts are those? Certainly not these ones I'm guessing? https://www.uq.edu.au/news/article/2021/01/long-term-study-r... https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https:/...
Worth noting that cannabis is illegal in Australia, so if anything it could point towards people willing to ignore the law are more likely to X and Y rather than the cannabis being the cause. But I'm just playing devils advocate here, I doubt daily consumption of any stimulant is great in the long term, but cannabis is probably not worse than anything else really.
I think we can however be fairly confident that daily consumption of tea and coffee is safer in term of stimulants. Not many develop chronic bronchitis from tea.
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> Toxic distilled alcohol isn't. Do you realize this ideia of poison alcohol was propaganda done by the government during prohibition, right? We know how to distill from millenniums, and selling poisonous alcohol isn't a very sustainable business model... I remember reading an article about the success of this campaign (was one of the first of this kinda). I'm mobile, but I'm sure someone can find a post a link.
> Do you realize this ideia of poison alcohol was propaganda from the government, right? Eh, I'm not sure about that. There are stories in the newspaper every few years about a corner stop selling cheap bootleg alcohol that has caused someone to go blind (or die) because it contained too much methanol. I for one am quite glad that alcohol production is well regulated.
If I’m very sensitive to food borne illness concerns, maybe I make the choice to go to a grocery store with vacuum sealed product, versus buying at a farmers market?
Similarly, folks who want “safe” booze can buy the bottled stuff from the big boys, not the corner store swill.
Of course, the weakness in this position is that the corner store swill is often substantially cheaper, and thus disproportionately affects low income communities.
No good answers. I’m not a smoker. So I have no dog in this fight. But I can’t help but read this article with a degree of schaddenfreude and frustration. The gov’t is so poor at executing sometimes, it’s astounding.
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> Toxic distilled alcohol isn't. Do you realize this ideia of poison alcohol was propaganda done by the government during prohibition, right? We know how to distill from millenniums, and selling poisonous alcohol isn't a very sustainable business model... I remember reading an article about the success of this campaign (was one of the first of this kinda). I'm mobile, but I'm sure someone can find a post a link.
> Do you realize this ideia of poison alcohol was propaganda from the government, right? Eh, I'm not sure about that. There are stories in the newspaper every few years about a corner stop selling cheap bootleg alcohol that has caused someone to go blind (or die) because it contained too much methanol. I for one am quite glad that alcohol production is well regulated.
Simply, the "heads" (which are high in methanol) come out of the still first, so it's easy to remove them.
In addition, methanol test strips are cheap and easy to use.
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If people can sell pies, vegetables, dairy and sometimes cider at informal farmers markets, cannabis should be the same. Moldy cannabis is self-apparent in most cases. Toxic distilled alcohol isn't. Some claim you can use a flame test to detect poisonous liquor.
> Toxic distilled alcohol isn't. Do you realize this ideia of poison alcohol was propaganda done by the government during prohibition, right? We know how to distill from millenniums, and selling poisonous alcohol isn't a very sustainable business model... I remember reading an article about the success of this campaign (was one of the first of this kinda). I'm mobile, but I'm sure someone can find a post a link.
In most recreational states, cannabis is taxed heavily at every step in the supply chain, so the highest quality still ends up being very expensive -- upward of $400/oz. The black market has the exact same quality at the wholesale price, typically 40-60% less than retail, with the added bonus of not having the government involved. For a daily or heavy smoker, a ~50% discount is a massive amount of money.
50% is worth the diminshed crime, and nobody should consume cannabis daily.
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> I doubt daily consumption of any stimulant is great in the long term, but cannabis is probably not worse than anything else really. I'd be willing to go out on a limb and say that cannabis is a lot worse than caffeine in this respect. I have known quite a few people who smoked cannabis daily, and while they didn't seem to notice they were mentally slow (compared to their normal selves) and almost entirely unmotivat…
I mean if we are going with “knowing people” as an anecdote, I know a LOT of extremely rich, successful, and motivated people (especially in SF and NYC) who smoke cannabis basically nonstop.
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> Do you realize this ideia of poison alcohol was propaganda from the government, right? Eh, I'm not sure about that. There are stories in the newspaper every few years about a corner stop selling cheap bootleg alcohol that has caused someone to go blind (or die) because it contained too much methanol. I for one am quite glad that alcohol production is well regulated.
Purely anecdotal, but my brother has a small (illicit) still and has walked me through the process - it's fairly simple, and neither of us can figure out how these methanol poisoning cases could happen by accident. Simply, the "heads" (which are high in methanol) come out of the still first, so it's easy to remove them. In addition, methanol test strips are cheap and easy to use.
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> I doubt daily consumption of any stimulant is great in the long term, but cannabis is probably not worse than anything else really. I'd be willing to go out on a limb and say that cannabis is a lot worse than caffeine in this respect. I have known quite a few people who smoked cannabis daily, and while they didn't seem to notice they were mentally slow (compared to their normal selves) and almost entirely unmotivat…
I mean it all depends on dosage right? And if you're smoking more CBD or THC. I had a friend who overconsumed caffeine until his heart rhythm started going bananas and he was hospitalized. But I've known many people who got stuck in the druggo trench, be it because of cannabis or not, a common denominator was they were all smoking weed.
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How common is fake pot, though? I mean, surely young folks try to do stupid things to other young and stupid people (fake and tainted drugs). Occasionally folks don't get the quality they expect. But all this stuff means you lose customers and you continually need new folks to dupe. "fake or tainted drugs" has always seemed like a bigger problem with different categories of drugs. Additionally, I'm not convinced it a…
Nope, fake and tainted weed is a very real problem when it's illegal. I've seen cannabis with plaster mixed in; glass beads, added ketamine, synthetic fibres; anything cheap to increase the perceived effect and weight. And all of those are safer than legal synthetic 'weed'. The THC to CBD ratio is completely impossible to control when in prohibition areas. Dealers select for maximum THC to minimize weight to effect r…