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1) more difficult to get due to changes in various regulations.
2) heavily propagandized against.
This is obviously an attempt to shift a big revenue stream from the pharmacorps to a new pie.
That new pie is divided between the state (licensing fees, taxes) and whoever can get permission to grow and sell (Governor Pritzker and his cronies).
It's all about money.
Wait I was told that when it was legalized there would be no more underground drug market. Seems things aren't as simple as they seem on the surface.
This is something pot activists have complained about from the get-go. Legalization was sold to politicians with the promise of high taxes. We knew that poor users would be priced out of the market, that legal weed would be a privilege enjoyed by the rich, that dealers with criminal records would be shut out of the legal market.
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If people can sell pies, vegetables, dairy and sometimes cider at informal farmers markets, cannabis should be the same. Moldy cannabis is self-apparent in most cases. Toxic distilled alcohol isn't. Some claim you can use a flame test to detect poisonous liquor.
> Toxic distilled alcohol isn't. Do you realize this ideia of poison alcohol was propaganda done by the government during prohibition, right? We know how to distill from millenniums, and selling poisonous alcohol isn't a very sustainable business model... I remember reading an article about the success of this campaign (was one of the first of this kinda). I'm mobile, but I'm sure someone can find a post a link.
Eh, I'm not sure about that. There are stories in the newspaper every few years about a corner stop selling cheap bootleg alcohol that has caused someone to go blind (or die) because it contained too much methanol. I for one am quite glad that alcohol production is well regulated.
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Not based on fact? Which facts are those? Certainly not these ones I'm guessing? https://www.uq.edu.au/news/article/2021/01/long-term-study-r... https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https:/...
Worth noting that cannabis is illegal in Australia, so if anything it could point towards people willing to ignore the law are more likely to X and Y rather than the cannabis being the cause. But I'm just playing devils advocate here, I doubt daily consumption of any stimulant is great in the long term, but cannabis is probably not worse than anything else really.
I'd be willing to go out on a limb and say that cannabis is a lot worse than caffeine in this respect. I have known quite a few people who smoked cannabis daily, and while they didn't seem to notice they were mentally slow (compared to their normal selves) and almost entirely unmotivated.
Still better than alcoholism of course. But we shouldn't pretend that their aren't issues with every day cannabis use.
You know, sometimes I wonder if some of the Romans, looking around at their society crumbling in the early ADs, asked themselves "you know, I remember we used to have these things called laws?" Seems we're tripping over ourselves these days to find every way to defeat the original purpose of the laws that we set up to make society civilized and fair. And I'm not just talking about weed.
If we have laws that forbid racial discrimination or surveillance and we get countless exceptions to these, the law basically becomes worthless and hollow.
Laws that protect against surveillance are worthless today. The intelligence community, tasked with protecting the constitutions, is guilty of undermining these by breaking them. Legislators are guilty of undermining them by having transgressions not have consequences. Even if you have an understanding on operational compromises, we went far beyond those. So the law vanishes, it has no value anymore. It is a broken law that also underlines how there are different set of rules for different people. So people start asking why they should honor other laws when it becomes inconvenient to them.
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This is something pot activists have complained about from the get-go. Legalization was sold to politicians with the promise of high taxes. We knew that poor users would be priced out of the market, that legal weed would be a privilege enjoyed by the rich, that dealers with criminal records would be shut out of the legal market.
> Legalization was sold to politicians with the promise of high taxes. We knew that poor users would be priced out of the market, that legal weed would be a privilege enjoyed by the rich Poor users seem to enjoy a lot of legal alcohol. Taxes on that are high too, and it's even easier to make your own alcohol than to make your own weed.
Selling flower buds of a plant will hardly be accessible. But the industry will eventually find a way to make a viable cannabis product from waste.
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Worth noting that cannabis is illegal in Australia, so if anything it could point towards people willing to ignore the law are more likely to X and Y rather than the cannabis being the cause. But I'm just playing devils advocate here, I doubt daily consumption of any stimulant is great in the long term, but cannabis is probably not worse than anything else really.
> I doubt daily consumption of any stimulant is great in the long term, but cannabis is probably not worse than anything else really. I'd be willing to go out on a limb and say that cannabis is a lot worse than caffeine in this respect. I have known quite a few people who smoked cannabis daily, and while they didn't seem to notice they were mentally slow (compared to their normal selves) and almost entirely unmotivat…
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Nothing about that comment seems THAT unusual. Honestly, I'm spending more time sitting here trying to understand where you're coming from than I am with them. What elements of their comment struck you as trolling?
The bits about "you dont understand unless you connect with the culture" and "its all love" read to me like stereotypes straight from the 60's. That kind of thing is an extreme minority in most places- weed culture is no less mercantile than any other. The la la stuff exists, to be sure, but so does my neighbor offering to share veggies from their garden. Either way, I don't think it's got much bearing on the illegal…
In my experience there's quite a bit of overlap between the kind of people who like to smoke weed and the kind of people who like to grow their own vegetables and sell them from their garden. Perhaps less so in cities. I think this is one of those stereotypes that has quite a bit of truth to it.
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Worth noting that cannabis is illegal in Australia, so if anything it could point towards people willing to ignore the law are more likely to X and Y rather than the cannabis being the cause. But I'm just playing devils advocate here, I doubt daily consumption of any stimulant is great in the long term, but cannabis is probably not worse than anything else really.
> I doubt daily consumption of any stimulant is great in the long term, but cannabis is probably not worse than anything else really. I'd be willing to go out on a limb and say that cannabis is a lot worse than caffeine in this respect. I have known quite a few people who smoked cannabis daily, and while they didn't seem to notice they were mentally slow (compared to their normal selves) and almost entirely unmotivat…
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If people can sell pies, vegetables, dairy and sometimes cider at informal farmers markets, cannabis should be the same. Moldy cannabis is self-apparent in most cases. Toxic distilled alcohol isn't. Some claim you can use a flame test to detect poisonous liquor.
> Toxic distilled alcohol isn't. Do you realize this ideia of poison alcohol was propaganda done by the government during prohibition, right? We know how to distill from millenniums, and selling poisonous alcohol isn't a very sustainable business model... I remember reading an article about the success of this campaign (was one of the first of this kinda). I'm mobile, but I'm sure someone can find a post a link.
I'm reminded of that XKCD where every day, 10000 people are learning for the first time something that everybody knows...
No person alive today has known how to distill alcohol safe for human consumption for longer than about 100 years. The median experience among current distillers will be substantially lower than that age.