OS X Lion: Apple’s Vista moment • Hacker News Board

Re: OS X Lion: Apple’s Vista moment

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Post by uptown » Wed, Aug 31, 2011, 2:33 PM UTC

My personal Lion problems have been Chrome and TweetDeck.

1) Chrome crashes all the time to the point of almost being unusable. I've tried removing extensions, and Flash and it doesn't seem to matter. I also have a problem where typing in Chrome's address bar is like typing in molasses. Each letter take about a second to appear. This problem started after my upgrade to Lion.

2) TweetDeck seems to throw the entire windowing system into disarray. Weird things like if I try to minimize the app, it'll sometimes automatically pop back up. If TweetDeck is running in the background, and I'm typing in the Chrome address bar, my system will sometimes bring-forward an entirely different application to the foreground. If I close TweetDeck, these problems all go away. I've tried re-installing both TweetDeck and AIR and neither seems to fix the problem.

I love OSX and my MacBook Pro, but I hate the fact that an OS upgrade I paid for made my overall experience using the device worse.

Re: OS X Lion: Apple’s Vista moment

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Post by shaggyfrog » Wed, Aug 31, 2011, 2:34 PM UTC

Vista was a major problem for MS because users stayed away from it in droves. This article makes no mention of that happening to Apple with Lion, which effectively cuts off the comparison at the knees.

Re: OS X Lion: Apple’s Vista moment

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Post by bsiemon » Wed, Aug 31, 2011, 2:35 PM UTC

uptown wrote: post #21

My personal Lion problems have been Chrome and TweetDeck. 1) Chrome crashes all the time to the point of almost being unusable. I've tried removing extensions, and Flash and it doesn't seem to matter. I also have a problem where typing in Chrome's address bar is like typing in molasses. Each letter take about a second to appear. This problem started after my upgrade to Lion. 2) TweetDeck seems to throw the entire win…

I am on the chrome dev channel and have had zero problems. Hope this helps.

Re: OS X Lion: Apple’s Vista moment

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Post by overgard » Wed, Aug 31, 2011, 2:35 PM UTC

What really annoys me is that they broke all my development tools for no good reason (where did gcc go?), broke my wireless, and the new features are underwhelming at best. If I had it to do over again I would definitely not upgrade.

Re: OS X Lion: Apple’s Vista moment

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Post by johnthedebs » Wed, Aug 31, 2011, 2:36 PM UTC

tseabrooks wrote: post #12

I'm pretty disappointed with Lion. Though, I don't see the problems this guy mentions... There are wireless problem on my iMac.. even after the update to fix the wifi problems... but I'm most disappointed with the complete "FU" Lion gives to multi-monitor support... using mission control is really really painful in a multi-monitor setup. Not to mention I don't actually get to use the new fullscreen apps because Apple…

why else would these blatant multi-monitor issues exist if not to intentionally hurt me?

I'm using Lion with multiple monitors, too, and have been annoyed by this. But the company that sells https://www.apple.com/displays/ definitely didn't do this to intentionally hurt users with multiple monitors.

My assumption is that, because of the dramatic changes to the desktop workflow in Lion, they needed to cut some features to meet summer deadline. Since relatively few users need multiple monitors, that's one area where they skimped.

We'll probably see some sanity restored in a minor update to the OS.

Re: OS X Lion: Apple’s Vista moment

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Post by nestlequ1k » Wed, Aug 31, 2011, 2:37 PM UTC

I've upgraded from Lion to Snow Leopard and havent looked back. After using it for a month, switching back was a breath of fresh air.

Re: OS X Lion: Apple’s Vista moment

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Post by voteaccount1 » Wed, Aug 31, 2011, 2:41 PM UTC

You forgot to mention the constant kernel panics, there's a 70 page thread about it in the Lions discussion forum on apples website.

Re: OS X Lion: Apple’s Vista moment

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Post by mason55 » Wed, Aug 31, 2011, 2:42 PM UTC

narkee wrote: post #3

I don't experience any of the issues the guy mentions in his article. Sometimes I wonder how some people's configurations get so wonky that they have all these issues. It's clearly an atypical case.

Literally the only issue he listed that I've experienced is the super-slow Mission Control opening. But I'm on a 4 year old laptop so I'm not surprised.

Re: OS X Lion: Apple’s Vista moment

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Post by gacba » Wed, Aug 31, 2011, 2:45 PM UTC

narkee wrote: post #3

I don't experience any of the issues the guy mentions in his article. Sometimes I wonder how some people's configurations get so wonky that they have all these issues. It's clearly an atypical case.

I wonder if his issues stem from using Lion on older Mac hardware, the same pain point most Vista users had when upgrading on hardware that was clearly not capable of handling it.

With that said, Lion runs sweetly on my MBP without any serious issues to date. I bought it brand new with Lion and there haven't been any weird events aside from WiFi cutting out on wake up. 10.7.1 fixed that for me.

Re: OS X Lion: Apple’s Vista moment

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Post by yogsototh » Wed, Aug 31, 2011, 2:48 PM UTC

narkee wrote: post #3

I don't experience any of the issues the guy mentions in his article. Sometimes I wonder how some people's configurations get so wonky that they have all these issues. It's clearly an atypical case.

I have an iMac from 2007. And after upgrading I experienced most of these issues. Even thought I love most of new Lion features.

I am happy to know, it works fine for most people. May I try to make a clean install. But if it doesn't work better, I'll have to downgrade.

I don't think I have a "strange" configuration. I don't remind playing with the kernel or using very specific configuration.