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Goodbye Brave

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Re: Goodbye Brave

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Post by iszomer »

kome wrote: post #14

I cannot understand why technically savvy people keep using spywares like Brave ( https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/brave.html ) or Chrome ( https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/chrome.html ) when we have better alternatives such as Vivaldi ( https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/vivaldi.html ) or Firefox ( https://spyware.neocities.org/guides/firefox.html )

Got conned by BAT and have a growing sentiment that by continuing to use Brave, I'm enabling the company to make back the advertising earnings promised; I refuse to do KYC to redeem them.

Re: Goodbye Brave

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Post by opan »

kome wrote: post #14

I cannot understand why technically savvy people keep using spywares like Brave ( https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/brave.html ) or Chrome ( https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/chrome.html ) when we have better alternatives such as Vivaldi ( https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/vivaldi.html ) or Firefox ( https://spyware.neocities.org/guides/firefox.html )

Isn't Vivaldi proprietary? I would cross it off the list as well. Then maybe add qutebrowser, nyxt, and ungoogled-chromium.

Re: Goodbye Brave

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Post by NmAmDa »

cmeacham98 wrote: post #6

Hi author, if you're here on HN please consider ditching sketchy extensions like Ghostery (sells your user data) and Adblock+ (participates in paid bypass of "acceptable ads" program) for the open-source and user-focused uBlock Origin ( https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock ). Also, if you haven't tried Firefox since the quantum days come back and give it another try.

uBlock origin put Ghostery lite in list of good replacement for people on safari so I'm confused now.

https://github.com/el1t/uBlock-Safari/issues/158

Re: Goodbye Brave

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Post by invalidname »

cmeacham98 wrote: post #6

Hi author, if you're here on HN please consider ditching sketchy extensions like Ghostery (sells your user data) and Adblock+ (participates in paid bypass of "acceptable ads" program) for the open-source and user-focused uBlock Origin ( https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock ). Also, if you haven't tried Firefox since the quantum days come back and give it another try.

Firefox is truly amazing today. I keep a chrome instance for Google docs which seems to work better there, the rest I do in FF which is better for everything else...

Re: Goodbye Brave

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Post by cmeacham98 »

NmAmDa wrote: post #23
cmeacham98 wrote: post #6

Hi author, if you're here on HN please consider ditching sketchy extensions like Ghostery (sells your user data) and Adblock+ (participates in paid bypass of "acceptable ads" program) for the open-source and user-focused uBlock Origin ( https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock ). Also, if you haven't tried Firefox since the quantum days come back and give it another try.

uBlock origin put Ghostery lite in list of good replacement for people on safari so I'm confused now. https://github.com/el1t/uBlock-Safari/issues/158

uBlock for Safari is run by some mostly unrelated third party, and what you linked specifically is an issue by "ghost".

Re: Goodbye Brave

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Post by concinds »

kome wrote: post #14

I cannot understand why technically savvy people keep using spywares like Brave ( https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/brave.html ) or Chrome ( https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/chrome.html ) when we have better alternatives such as Vivaldi ( https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/vivaldi.html ) or Firefox ( https://spyware.neocities.org/guides/firefox.html )

Firefox is less secure, as has been said many times here already. You might dislike the Blink hegemony but they're the only ones who invest enough in security. Vivaldi's closed source, and Firefox doesn't have site isolation on all platforms yet. (Neither does Safari). Chrome had it in 2018. 3 years is not excusable when a 0day can be the difference between freedom and jail (or worse).

"Privacy" is defective when your exploit mitigation is deficient. You've got a lot worse privacy when your whole computer is owned, than when a few websites track which other websites you've been to.

None of this is new. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27219402

Brave has a top-notch team, uses Blink, and has some of the best fingerprinting protection I've seen in any browser, much better than Safari, and better than Firefox. They have good people working on it. The fact that an attempt to improve privacy [0] is being used to bring Brave bad PR is ironic.

[0]: https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/wiki/Deviations-from-...

Re: Goodbye Brave

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Post by i13e »

This title seems a little clickbaity to be honest and I'm not sure how accurate the author's portrayal of Brave's server side is. Based on intuition I imagine the inability to install extensions has something to do with Chrome's locked down web store forcing Brave to make it's server-side act as a middle man to the chrome web to download and install extensions. Therefore this would be a google/chromium/intentional design flaw and consequence of prioritizing UI/Security over simplicity. If someone understands this better feel free to explain below.

Re: Goodbye Brave

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Post by trevcanhuman »

kome wrote: post #14

I cannot understand why technically savvy people keep using spywares like Brave ( https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/brave.html ) or Chrome ( https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/chrome.html ) when we have better alternatives such as Vivaldi ( https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/vivaldi.html ) or Firefox ( https://spyware.neocities.org/guides/firefox.html )

Interesting spyware website, thanks. I see that some of the stuff that I saw on Reddit is actually true. I’ve stopped using Brave for about 6 months now, so far so good.rn I’m on chromium.

One of the reasons why I also quit this was because some problems with their rewards crypto programs. Basically, this content creator Tom Scott, makes great videos, tweeted some stuff about Brave explaining the issue. He says that Brave users who watched him or visited his website were encouraged to donate to him through the Brave rewards program, when in fact, Tom Scott had not signed up or agreed upon it. Several people donated misunderstandignly and Brave didn’t even say that Tom Scott was not on their crypto platform, refused to either refund the people who donated and thanks to this issue now any content creator who isn’t on their crypto platform has a small text below the crypto payment.

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