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Maybe stop funding them, for a start? Congressional oversight used to be a thing. Snowden showed the NSA lied to congress. No heads rolled.
Why would heads roll? Congress has blocked inquiries into their split loyalty as far as them having multiple citizenship in other countries. If you were McDonald's board of directors would you allow someone to be on both the McDonald's board and Wendy's? Congress isn't personally harmed by a surveillance state unless you consider they may all be being blackmailed but that is another conversation. In fact mass surveil…
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Every passionate ideologue thinks that both the community and the moderators are biased in favor of their opponents. Your counterparts are just as certain that it's all biased in favor of you: Typical modern leftist ideology. Very disappointed with HN lately. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25955953 Hacker News has a progressive Silicon Valley bias https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26402235 this site is heavi…
I don't think you are explicitly biased. I don't think you are trying to promote one political ideology over another.
I do think, that due to the way your rules are set up, and how you enforce them, you unintentionally end up attracting one, and driving away the other. And I think this process has been going on slowly for a long time, and that you may not be noticing it, but that HN has turned into a home for some pretty extreme viewpoints in the process, that are just hidden behind a thin veneer of respectability.
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> This was in response to acts of war and unprovoked attacks against the United States mainland with both military and civillian targets by an individual who had made a specific declaration of war against the U.S. Since when do individuals wage "war" on nation-states? (And no, if the only counter-examples you can come up with are 18th-century pirate chiefs and tiny Carribbean islands you've failed. We're talking 21st…
What I wrote was "acts of war" and "specific declaration of war" by the individual in quesiton, with a link to the citation. If you have any issue with established historical fact, that's your own concern. Decapitating a specific cult of personality has been an effective method of eliminating it. Which also proved successful in the case of AQ. (Yes, there are new emergent threats and groups, including several previou…
Nope, certainly not crystal clear: You were replying to a post that mentioned, among other things, the Guantanamo internment camp, and airily said "this" case. I saw no specification there of which case, exactly, that was supposed to be.
Yes, the USA may be vast and contain multitudes, but even you talk about "the US": In the end there is only one of it, and when the USA as a nation-state does stuff then it's the USA, singular, as a nation-state that gets discussed and criticized. Just like here. I hope I'll never get so fuzzy in my dotage that I'll let sich disingenuous attempts at obfuscation slip by.
Hm... Pseudo-helpful hint/ reminder; feels like about 50/50 past and current posters. I'd already concluded neither extreme of Box or Ash, for rather obvious linguistic reasons. Been considering alumni like RM, DRL, KMS et al, but this feels more like currents such as RC, SK, or SA. Or perhaps AG; I notice that his recipe -- besides the formal declaration being severely watered down -- was pretty much what the US (singular, as a nation-state) went with.
I don't have your email; you have mine.
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Arguably, genocide anywhere should be confronted and prevented (though of course it never is, because the compassion of our species is quite limited). In the modern era, arguably few have suffered as much as the Jews, in large part due to their historic lack of a homeland and safe haven. That's not to excuse modern Israeli policy, and I find it atrocious that they treat Palestine this way especially because they know…
> most countries that "fall" would just be assimilated into their conquering cultures. It would be really nice if all cross-border hatred was isolated in one theater where it could easily be dealt with, but that's not the case. > I don't think we should be arming Israel, but that's only because they can take care of themselves. One wonders how long it will be until they move on to taking care of their neighbors.
Yeah. I'd vote for naked MMA mud matches between heads of state.
> One wonders how long it will be until they move on to taking care of their neighbors.
If the Six-Day War was any indication, they have that option any time they choose to exercise it. But it's doubtful they'd ever be able to hold the peace even if they could win the wars that way. Israel didn't survive by being brash and careless... they're not the United States. One mistake and they'd be wiped from the planet, at least until World War 3.
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> Is 'separation' a euphemism for 'preventing invasion'? Because threat of that is #1 thing keeping cross-strait relations tense. Mainland China could easily offer Taiwan a better deal than they get by being closely aligned with the US. Their reluctance to do so keeps US influence in the region, and after a while one can't help if it's deliberate. I don't quite follow. Are you saying China purposely gives Taiwan a ra…
I don't quite follow. Are you saying China purposely gives Taiwan a raw deal just to deliberately spite the US? Why would they do that? I think I'm misunderstanding you. I mean the whole situation is incredibly contrived. The 'sacred chinese territory' narrative feels completely hollow if you consider how long ago they stopped claiming other Qing dynasty possessions like Mongolia. My guess is that it serves a domesti…
> So yes, by offering Taiwan a better deal than they get from the US, they could remove a lot of influence from the region. But it never happens.
I doubt this is actually as much a cultural issue for the CCP as it was for past emperors. They've long since abandoned that model and instead observed/emulated the successes and failures of the West, including our love of creating enslaved vassal states under the guise of nation-building. Long game, they probably want Taiwan to become another Hong Kong or Tibet. Short term, Taiwan is a useful bargaining chip for them to focus American attention towards, and the mere threat of war there can back the US into our corner while China focuses on domestic infrastructure and continues to leapfrog us across the sectors and years. Never interrupt your enemy while they're making a mistake, etc. China knows they'll win by default while we blindly obsess over our colonies, and if they really need to (unlikely), it's a lot cheaper to sink a carrier group than to build and maintain one.
IMO we're their ultimate target, not Taiwan in and of itself. It's like an abusive, manipulative spouse using a kid as collateral against the other parent (us). Once the other parent is taken care of, they're free to do with the kid as they please.
> The US withdrawing from East Asia would be a global disaster. This wouldn't be a small land skirmish, it would be a massive amphibious invasion in Japans backyard - which knows it's southern territories would be next on the menu.
Sorry, by who? Are you saying South Korea will invade Japan if we pull out...? How?
And why is that our problem to solve?
> It would also take place in one of the busiest shipping routes in the world, causing a massive disruption of global trade. Not to mention the semi conductor angle, now abandoned US allies pursuing their own nuclear weapons agendas.. etc etc.
So, kinda like Covid? Eh, fewer Xboxes and new cars for a few years, global GDP repressed for a bit. The world will survive and move on and adapt.
As for nuclear weapons agendas, the US is still the only one to have used them, and still one of the most imperialist countries in the modern era, and the one who tends to create the biggest enemies out of our misadventures. South Korea and Japan and Taiwan aren't going to nuke each other, even if there's historical animosity there. Maybe the Koreas themselves will break out into war, but that was probably an inevitability anyway, unless the removal of US attention and sanctions allows NK to grow and transform.
> You could argue the US should not have been interfering there in the first place. Which is very principled and all, but the USSR was going to be there either way.
So let China take over that role for that region of the globe. Let a resurgent Russia have its piece of the pie. Maybe it's time for US power to wane.
> And now the US is very much the force in that region keeping war from breaking out. Arming South Korea, Taiwan and Japan does not make these places more volatile. It makes them much, much less.
This makes no sense. With US involvement, Taiwan and South Korea become proxy wars with China. Without us, they become regional conflicts affecting a few million people, not WW3.
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Really, all you need is a subtle suggestion to the Israeli government that the hundred billions or so dollars they receive from the US every year might be impacted by continued NSO bad publicity.
that number is way off, and the money they "receive", is specifically for use with US defence contracts and deals.. Its like Disneyland giving you Disneydollars.. You can only spend them at Disneyland.. It is a way for the US military-industrial complex to stay afloat.. And it is a drop in the bucket for Israeli Defence spending, and would make little difference if they took it out.
Well that, and the hamburger vendor buys a big house in the DC metro area. And everybody else's ticket prices go up a little.
But still, draw a control volume, and it's just hamburgers flowing out.
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> This was in response to acts of war and unprovoked attacks against the United States mainland with both military and civillian targets by an individual who had made a specific declaration of war against the U.S. Since when do individuals wage "war" on nation-states? (And no, if the only counter-examples you can come up with are 18th-century pirate chiefs and tiny Carribbean islands you've failed. We're talking 21st…
What I wrote was "acts of war" and "specific declaration of war" by the individual in quesiton, with a link to the citation. If you have any issue with established historical fact, that's your own concern. Decapitating a specific cult of personality has been an effective method of eliminating it. Which also proved successful in the case of AQ. (Yes, there are new emergent threats and groups, including several previou…
So, it was difficult to finish your comment.
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What I wrote was "acts of war" and "specific declaration of war" by the individual in quesiton, with a link to the citation. If you have any issue with established historical fact, that's your own concern. Decapitating a specific cult of personality has been an effective method of eliminating it. Which also proved successful in the case of AQ. (Yes, there are new emergent threats and groups, including several previou…
> The specific case I was discussing, and I really hope I'm not so vague in my dotage that this wasn't crystal clear, was the 2 May 2011 attack on Osama bin Laden's compound resulting in his death. Nope, certainly not crystal clear: You were replying to a post that mentioned, among other things, the Guantanamo internment camp, and airily said "this" case. I saw no specification there of which case, exactly, that was…