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Magnus Carlsen wins longest world chess championship game of all time

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Re: Magnus Carlsen wins longest world chess championship game of all time

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Post by loh »

toong wrote: post #81
jstx1 wrote: post #46

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He didn't miss it though - if he had, he would have taken the rook. No one at their level misses something like this in these games. This stuff is obvious to much much weaker players than Ian.

Replying to sibling: no, he was not - it was obvious, even to a low-level recreational player (like me)

Copying what I said in another reply: I'm referring to move 133, right after Ian moved his queen from H6 to H7, attacking the rook. Magnus ignores this and moves his E5 pawn to E6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWkBeTwbfj4&t=29890s

Re: Magnus Carlsen wins longest world chess championship game of all time

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Post by thelittleone »

jjbinx007 wrote: post #5

Bit of a spoiler :( I prefer to watch analysis of games from YouTubers like Agadmator or Jerry from Chessnetwork and discover who the winner was by watching the game. I wonder if these long games are not particularly helpful. Most chess final games end in draws as players are reluctant to create an imbalance and instead play it safe. There tends to be more exciting games played in games with a shorter time limit. I'm…

Rapid would be great and even blitz. Both game types offer a good intersection of being ease to follow and short enough to watch entirely for a large audience.

Re: Magnus Carlsen wins longest world chess championship game of all time

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Post by monkey_monkey »

jjbinx007 wrote: post #5

Bit of a spoiler :( I prefer to watch analysis of games from YouTubers like Agadmator or Jerry from Chessnetwork and discover who the winner was by watching the game. I wonder if these long games are not particularly helpful. Most chess final games end in draws as players are reluctant to create an imbalance and instead play it safe. There tends to be more exciting games played in games with a shorter time limit. I'm…

Is it really a spoiler? Or is it just "news"?

Re: Magnus Carlsen wins longest world chess championship game of all time

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Post by yyyk »

systemvoltage wrote: post #75

Please... please don't use titles like this and spoil it for everyone. Can we edit the title to say "Magnus Carlsen and Ian Nepomnitchi play the longest world chess championship game"?

You have a good point, however HN etiquette is to be as close to the original headline as possible. Perhaps there should have an exception for sports.

Re: Magnus Carlsen wins longest world chess championship game of all time

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Post by yupper32 »

jfengel wrote: post #96
yupper32 wrote: post #93

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> Perhaps with computers it's time to retire the existing notion of chess tournaments. You clearly don't follow chess, given your question. So I have to ask: why are you so quick to take a stance on something you don't follow or understand?

I'm unclear why you'd think that a question beginning with "perhaps" constitutes taking a stand.

You didn't ask a question in the post I responded to.

Re: Magnus Carlsen wins longest world chess championship game of all time

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Post by Scarblac »

YawningAngel wrote: post #101
jstx1 wrote: post #88

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Gotham's style isn't for everyone, he can get pretty annoying. One good thing to say about him is that he really gets how beginners think and he's good at highlighting the moments of "this is what a beginner would do and this is why the really good players do something else".

I think Gotham's style is very oriented towards entertainment. I don't mean this as a criticism - he has successfully entertained a lot of people. But I feel like I learn more from ChessNetwork. The absolute peak for me are the recaps Peter Svidler used to record for Chess24, such as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJlVjicymKI - I haven't seen such deep and insightful analysis of games anywhere else.

This current match has the Levitov chess channel with Peter Svidler and Vladimir Kramnik analysing live. What a team! No engine in sight, instead a glass of whisky, decades of world top experience and love of the game.

Re: Magnus Carlsen wins longest world chess championship game of all time

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov »

ajkjk wrote: post #55
lvass wrote: post #42

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And unfortunate choice of news outlet. As a developer, I can't help mentioning how baffling it is part of the chess community keeps using a proprietary website filled to the brim on dark patterns while a better and free as in freedom alternative is available.

I think that chess.com pays some people to use their website on streams, etc. Although Lichess isn't perfect and it's kinda annoying. One of the bad things about Lichess is how unrealistically inflated their ratings are; 2100 on Lichess is equivalent to about 1800 on Chess.com. Chess.com is much more similar to the FIDE rating and other real-world systems. Lichess is just super inflated for some reason and it makes i…

Just forego pathetic chess.com and fide ratings, lichess is the best thing that happened to chess since castling.

Re: Magnus Carlsen wins longest world chess championship game of all time

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Post by Scarblac »

YossarianFrPrez wrote: post #32

I'm not a chess expert, so feel like I must be missing something. In the last move Black's king isn't in check? Was the loss due to time?

The pawn wil advance twice and promote to a queen, after which the win is trivial (both squares the pawn moves to are protected, by the rook and the Knight).

In reply black can only try to give endless checks with his queen, but the white king can hide behind the Knight and they will end.

Re: Magnus Carlsen wins longest world chess championship game of all time

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Post by bjourne »

varunprasad wrote: post #69
jacobolus wrote: post #47

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"It was the first decisive game in the classical rounds of a world championship in over five years." I wonder if there’s some way other than time constraints to encourage higher variance moves.

The 5 year thing is misleading though. It would have been 4 years if not for COVID. And what it basically means is that there were decisive games 4 years ago, and then 2 years later (the World Chess Championship is played every 2 years), in the 2018 match between Caruana and Magnus there were no decisive games. So essentially there was 1 match with all draws during the standard chess part of the tournament. And that…

But there were only two decisive games in the match against Karjakin. So 22 of the last 24 classical world championship games were draws (27 out of 30 if we count the current match). Even Magnus himself has said that he thinks it is a little dull.
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