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Boox Mira Pro – 25.3" E Ink Monitor

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Re: Boox Mira Pro – 25.3" E Ink Monitor

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Post by roughly »

aarongray wrote: post #178
dash2 wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! * Do you use it as your main daily monitor? * I find screen time quite addictive (which is one reason why I am on HN so much). Do you notice any difference from this perspective when using an eink screen? * Has the screen quality degraded over time? * How big a difference has it made to your life?

I can't speak to e-ink but regarding screen time addiction, I used Gray-Switch ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vegardit.g... ) to turn my phone display black and white, and immediately my phone use decreased by 66%.

I do this too on my iPhone - like all the really good iPhone settings, it’s an accessibility option, under Display -> Color Filters. You can also set up the “accessibility shortcut” so triple-clicking the side button enables or disables it.

It really reduces the intensity of the phone - you never realize just how garish the color choices are for almost every app out there until you see it in B&W.

Re: Boox Mira Pro – 25.3" E Ink Monitor

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Post by vzaliva »

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #53
zwirbl wrote: post #13

I couldn't find a video of the display in use, so here it goes (for the 13.3" version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBfWkxOfUfQ seems a little slow and the screen refreshes sometimes excessive, but much better than I expected

I still don't understand how there isn't a market for a work _laptop_ with a display like this? - Longer battery life - easy on the eyes for long sessions reading/writing - Allows me to actually work outside!!! There is a huge market of people out there (Thinking about the typical ThinkPad users) that don't give 2 craps about color accuracy. We literally just want to read and write. Anyone envolved in Product Managem…

I would prefer a modular laptop where I can swap between OLED and liquid paper screens. Just snap another screen before going to work in a park.

Re: Boox Mira Pro – 25.3" E Ink Monitor

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Post by WesolyKubeczek »

al3mani wrote: post #192

What about f.lux (and others?) --> "Effects and extra colors" --> "Grayscale" ?

Still doesn't fix the problem of rather bright light being emitted from the screen into your eyes. Think also about all the power wasted on backlighting where ambient light could be just fine.

Also, I don't know if you have noticed, but you can't use f.lux and friends and grayscale simultaneously, because grayscale is applied after gamma change, making it pointless.

Re: Boox Mira Pro – 25.3" E Ink Monitor

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Post by Ancapistani »

cassianoleal wrote: post #74
DoingIsLearning wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still don't understand how there isn't a market for a work _laptop_ with a display like this? - Longer battery life - easy on the eyes for long sessions reading/writing - Allows me to actually work outside!!! There is a huge market of people out there (Thinking about the typical ThinkPad users) that don't give 2 craps about color accuracy. We literally just want to read and write. Anyone envolved in Product Managem…

Try reducing your screen's refresh rate to mimic that of an eInk display. Interacting with the machine becomes a horrible chore. Every input feels laggy and sluggish. It's hard to control the pointer. Even at 30Hz it becomes very difficult to focus on the actual tasks because the computer doesn't seem to respond to your commands.

What mouse? The use case I have for an EPD is entirely terminal-based.

Re: Boox Mira Pro – 25.3" E Ink Monitor

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Post by snthd »

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #53
zwirbl wrote: post #13

I couldn't find a video of the display in use, so here it goes (for the 13.3" version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBfWkxOfUfQ seems a little slow and the screen refreshes sometimes excessive, but much better than I expected

I still don't understand how there isn't a market for a work _laptop_ with a display like this? - Longer battery life - easy on the eyes for long sessions reading/writing - Allows me to actually work outside!!! There is a huge market of people out there (Thinking about the typical ThinkPad users) that don't give 2 craps about color accuracy. We literally just want to read and write. Anyone envolved in Product Managem…

>Allows me to actually work outside!!!

This can also be achieved with a transflective panel.

Edit: Here's one retrofitted to a thinkpad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuegrU_kIq8

Re: Boox Mira Pro – 25.3" E Ink Monitor

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Post by atlgator »

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #53
zwirbl wrote: post #13

I couldn't find a video of the display in use, so here it goes (for the 13.3" version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBfWkxOfUfQ seems a little slow and the screen refreshes sometimes excessive, but much better than I expected

I still don't understand how there isn't a market for a work _laptop_ with a display like this? - Longer battery life - easy on the eyes for long sessions reading/writing - Allows me to actually work outside!!! There is a huge market of people out there (Thinking about the typical ThinkPad users) that don't give 2 craps about color accuracy. We literally just want to read and write. Anyone envolved in Product Managem…

They could partner with framework to offer the one in their marketplace.

Re: Boox Mira Pro – 25.3" E Ink Monitor

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Post by fsflover »

netcan wrote: post #82
breakfastduck wrote: post #57

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No one is going to sell a device that costs significantly more than any other for the same power to provide what 99% of users would consider a sub par/ unusable display. Like seriously can you imagine trying to sell a laptop that is unable to watch any media, play any games and has the refresh rate / perceived performance of a 15 year old tablet. This stuff isn't ready to be a 'main' display yet.

So... An eInk laptop wouldn't be for media. It'd be a different product with different pros/cons. Easier on the eyes. Better in sunlight. Easier on battery. Quite usable for reading, emails, code and any "mostly text" use. To the OP's original point "why doesn't this just exist..." IMO, it could, but it would need to be a different product class. Just sticking the monitor onto a windows machine isn't good enough. It…

Perhaps this might be relevant: https://www.pine64.org/pinenote/.

Re: Boox Mira Pro – 25.3" E Ink Monitor

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Post by gbraad »

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #53
zwirbl wrote: post #13

I couldn't find a video of the display in use, so here it goes (for the 13.3" version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBfWkxOfUfQ seems a little slow and the screen refreshes sometimes excessive, but much better than I expected

I still don't understand how there isn't a market for a work _laptop_ with a display like this? - Longer battery life - easy on the eyes for long sessions reading/writing - Allows me to actually work outside!!! There is a huge market of people out there (Thinking about the typical ThinkPad users) that don't give 2 craps about color accuracy. We literally just want to read and write. Anyone envolved in Product Managem…

Lenovo ThinkBook has an eink screen. Not exclusively, but works quite well.

Re: Boox Mira Pro – 25.3" E Ink Monitor

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Post by cassianoleal »

Ancapistani wrote: post #195
cassianoleal wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try reducing your screen's refresh rate to mimic that of an eInk display. Interacting with the machine becomes a horrible chore. Every input feels laggy and sluggish. It's hard to control the pointer. Even at 30Hz it becomes very difficult to focus on the actual tasks because the computer doesn't seem to respond to your commands.

What mouse? The use case I have for an EPD is entirely terminal-based.

That's a fair use-case but I suspect it's a _very rare_ one, which probably answers the initial question:

> how there isn't a market for a work _laptop_ with a display like this?

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