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Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by selfhoster11 »

drcongo wrote: post #61

Vivaldi is the exact opposite of what I want from a browser. I want a rendering engine and some tabs, that's pretty much it. Vivaldi decided to encumber those two good things with a 1000 features and some horrific themes, making the entire application 1000 times slower than it could have been. Every time I've tried it it's just reminded me of that old screenshot of MS Word with all the toolbars switched on [0], a ton…

It seems like it's just not a browser for you. There are a lot of Chromium based browsers with a lot simpler UIs for those that seek that.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by stereoradonc »

jjordan wrote: post #52
rjzzleep wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the UI still as horribly laggy? I try vivaldi every other year because people say it's faster, but it's almost as if those people only run that beast on a desktop or fully specced 15" laptops

I'm in the same boat. I've wanted to switch to them for years, but once I get it loaded with my requisite plugins and start using it for a while, the UI inevitably begins to experience random lags and moments of unresponsiveness.

Never a problem in my 4 years of use.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by stereoradonc »

skrowl wrote: post #117
csomar wrote: post #97

I've been using Vivaldi for a few months now and basically forgot about Firefox. 1. Address Bar abd Tabs in the bottom without having to hack Firefox XUL/CSS. 2. Tabs. I have 7-8 stacks at any point. For example, I can start reading HN articles, leave the tabs open and them move to another stack for work, research, whatever. I have around 100+ tabs open at any time (and they consuming a little over 12Gb of memory). T…

Rather than tab stacks, try Firefox Containers + https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/conex/ It gives you the option to hide all tabs that aren't in your current container. The other advantage it gives over tab stacks in Vivaldi / Edge / Chrome is that they're actually containerized. Tabs in container A can't access anything from tabs in container B. If you're running a device with low RAM, you can add http…

Possibly the only advantage that Firefox has over Chrome.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by zmix »

I once liked Vivaldi. However, a few months ago I started to dislike it, since it adds more and more useless stuff instead of being innovative:

* Graphics RGB color diagram * Mail client * Calendar client * Since over a year I can't play back video, that ha audio, because then the browser hangs for minutes. * Theme editor * Philips Hue integration * Razor Chroma intergration * (sophisticated) time based theme changes * built in Vivaldia computer game

and these were just the things I found in the first four settings categories... Oh, Notes comes to mind... that doesn't belong into the browser, it belongs into a separate application...and so on...

Yes, the tabs are nice, the quick command (F2) is nice, there is a few other things (it doesn't crash, which is a big one!) but the only reason I am still with it, is, that I have already stored so much information in it and I am too lazy to switch.

It's a browser, that is slowly getting infantile.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by zafiro17 »

Every time a vivaldi post shows up on HN it attracts a lot of negative comments (and some positive ones). Will just add my voice to the mix - Vivaldi is my primary browser and I love it. On my 5 year old laptop I experience no slowness, and I generally enjoy it's very user-focused features. I also enjoyed Opera prior to version 12. I recognize it's not the browser for everyone, but on my Linux boxes it's the second app I install (mutt is the first one). Your experience may vary.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by theshadowknows »

skrowl wrote: post #116
freediver wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be more accurate there are no Blink or Gecko based browsers on iOS. Both Firefox and Chrome (and many other Chromium browsers) exist on iOS, using WebKit rendering engine.

Technically correct, but the Firefox and Chrome listed in the iOS lockdown store are basically just skins on top of WebKit, not actually different web browsers (like they are on Android and other modern operating systems). It sounds like the EU and others may be fixing this soon by forcing Apple to allow other app stores on their devices if they want to continue selling devices in their regions. Presumably Amazon sto…

Also iCab which at least let’s you use the new engine. I don’t think the other browsers even allow that.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by marcellus23 »

the_other wrote: post #78
drcongo wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Safari for actual browsing because it's really unbeatable at it - very fast rendering, has tabs. I'd argue Chromium doesn't quite live up to that promise thanks to the horrible UI rendering and spectacular battery drain that it inherits from Chrome. Firefox I think does a nice compromise between being a good browser and having all that customisation stuff that the kids seem to like, but it does have a tiny hit…

Safari user here too. It's great. Admittedly, I'm fairly invested in the Apple ecosystem and enjoy my laptop and phone operating as two views on the same computing state, so I'm biased... but Safari renders very nicely, has minimal UI, runs fast and I like it a lot. I'm not looking forward to the Monterey tab design tho' when I eventually have to upgrade to a "current"-ish version.

They’re reverting that change. It’s already done in the betas.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by smartbit »

skrowl wrote: post #117
csomar wrote: post #97

I've been using Vivaldi for a few months now and basically forgot about Firefox. 1. Address Bar abd Tabs in the bottom without having to hack Firefox XUL/CSS. 2. Tabs. I have 7-8 stacks at any point. For example, I can start reading HN articles, leave the tabs open and them move to another stack for work, research, whatever. I have around 100+ tabs open at any time (and they consuming a little over 12Gb of memory). T…

Rather than tab stacks, try Firefox Containers + https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/conex/ It gives you the option to hide all tabs that aren't in your current container. The other advantage it gives over tab stacks in Vivaldi / Edge / Chrome is that they're actually containerized. Tabs in container A can't access anything from tabs in container B. If you're running a device with low RAM, you can add http…

> Rather than tab stacks, try Firefox Containers + https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/conex/

conex hasn’t been updated for 3 years. Are you sure you want to recommend it?

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by dafaks »

kunagi7 wrote: post #66
drcongo wrote: post #61

Vivaldi is the exact opposite of what I want from a browser. I want a rendering engine and some tabs, that's pretty much it. Vivaldi decided to encumber those two good things with a 1000 features and some horrific themes, making the entire application 1000 times slower than it could have been. Every time I've tried it it's just reminded me of that old screenshot of MS Word with all the toolbars switched on [0], a ton…

There's a lot of browsers out there that already give the experience you want. Like Ungoogled Chromium (or regular Chromium). I always see a lot of power users being enraged to other browsers when they remove features that the 1~5% of their users use so it's a bit weird to see protests against one of the few browsers that attempt to reverse the oversimplification trend. Vivaldi's main deal is allowing the user to cus…

well, waterfox without proton theme works like charm for me

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by Tomis02 »

nsonha wrote: post #127
Tomis02 wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Runs fine on my nothing special 6-7 year old computer. I also disable tab rendering and use the tab side panel instead, I'm not sure if that makes a difference.

it's not that it's slow or resource hogs, it's janky which gives the same impression as being laggy

I see. If you're willing to give it another try, perhaps try and customize away all the fancy bells and whistles (for example I disabled tabs altogether and just use the side panel for displaying the tabs but I'm sure there's other settings as well).
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