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Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by GNOMES »

Eelongate wrote: post #95
patall wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honest question, how is FireFox becoming unusable for you? I am using it on both Linux and Windows and do not really have any problems with it. Sure, sometimes a web site does not load properly but more often than not is because some add-ons like ad-blocker and no-script are intervening for me. In other cases, its obvious that the website was never tested in anything but chrome. In those cases where I really need it,…

With Firefox 93, I was restarting the browser 3 or 4 times a day because it kept crashing while playing videos. It would start with videos loading but not playing, and then moments later the whole browser would lock up and leave no choice but to kill it and restart. So far Firefox 94 seems to have that issue resolved, but that experience with 93 was very nearly enough to make me quit. (I should probably mention, anot…

I had this issue in my Firefox Nightly for about a day. Next update or so resolved the issue for me. Obviously unstable bleeding edge isn't for everyone, but I does have it's benefits at times.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by _0w8t »

Isthatablackgsd wrote: post #94
pixelgeek wrote: post #81

So two questions for the groupmind here. 1) I asked this previously but is it really that difficult to take a screenshot on Windows? "Vivaldi’s built-in Capture tool lets you capture either a Full Page screenshot, or a Selection of the screen that you define. It can be accessed in a number of ways through the Vivaldi UI to give you flexibility in how you implement the tool." 2) The fully loaded version of the browser…

> "Vivaldi’s built-in Capture tool lets you capture either a Full Page screenshot, or a Selection of the screen that you define. It can be accessed in a number of ways through the Vivaldi UI to give you flexibility in how you implement the tool." Not difficult, it is the limitation of the OS. Desktop OSes don't have a way to tell the browser to take a screenshot of the full page. So it is limited of what it can do. T…

A Vivaldi developer here. In which OS and on which pages do you experience this effect? Also, what is DPI of the screen?

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by Chevalier »

Vivaldi is easily the best browser I've ever used, bar none. But for lacking two-factor authentication on the account itself, I have no complaints - the vertical tabs, web panels, bookmark tree, and the Human theme are unrivaled by any other browser.

I didn't discover Vivaldi until recently, but I'm a fanatical convert now. Strongly recommended.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

#124

Post by Chevalier »

rjzzleep wrote: post #46
freediver wrote: post #28

Congrats to Vivaldi! There is a good interview with Vivaldi founder on Tedium [1] where he basically says that because most browsers are built on Chromium nowadays, you have to innovate on features and that is the direction they took. And really the number of features in Vivaldi is staggering including some great ones like Tab Stacking and Tab Tiling. But adding this many features took a toll on performance and it is…

Is the UI still as horribly laggy? I try vivaldi every other year because people say it's faster, but it's almost as if those people only run that beast on a desktop or fully specced 15" laptops

If anything, Vivaldi seems faster for me than Chrome was. I haven't seen any of the performance slowdowns that other people on this thread have mentioned. Possibly because I haven't enabled the Mail/Calendar/Feeds full-fat option?

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

#125

Post by patall »

Eelongate wrote: post #95
patall wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honest question, how is FireFox becoming unusable for you? I am using it on both Linux and Windows and do not really have any problems with it. Sure, sometimes a web site does not load properly but more often than not is because some add-ons like ad-blocker and no-script are intervening for me. In other cases, its obvious that the website was never tested in anything but chrome. In those cases where I really need it,…

With Firefox 93, I was restarting the browser 3 or 4 times a day because it kept crashing while playing videos. It would start with videos loading but not playing, and then moments later the whole browser would lock up and leave no choice but to kill it and restart. So far Firefox 94 seems to have that issue resolved, but that experience with 93 was very nearly enough to make me quit. (I should probably mention, anot…

Yeah, I totally understand what you are saying. One should point out however that my parent comment is pretty much the same, i.e implying that 'it's become unstable and slow for everyone'. Not that I want to blame them, we all have a limited point of view and comments on the internet often sound harsh simply by negligence and not intentionally.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by freediver »

skrowl wrote: post #116
freediver wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be more accurate there are no Blink or Gecko based browsers on iOS. Both Firefox and Chrome (and many other Chromium browsers) exist on iOS, using WebKit rendering engine.

Technically correct, but the Firefox and Chrome listed in the iOS lockdown store are basically just skins on top of WebKit, not actually different web browsers (like they are on Android and other modern operating systems). It sounds like the EU and others may be fixing this soon by forcing Apple to allow other app stores on their devices if they want to continue selling devices in their regions. Presumably Amazon sto…

What do you mean by skin on top of WebKit? WebKit itself just renders the web page. The browser manufacturer has to build an entire browser and decide how to treat user privacy for example, does it have telemetry and what kind, whether to use native controls or not, what browser features to implement like reader mode, how to handle multiple tabs, gestures etc.. Calling that a skin is same as calling Vivaldi a skin of Chromium disregarding the effort made to make it different.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by nsonha »

Tomis02 wrote: post #108
rjzzleep wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the UI still as horribly laggy? I try vivaldi every other year because people say it's faster, but it's almost as if those people only run that beast on a desktop or fully specced 15" laptops

Runs fine on my nothing special 6-7 year old computer. I also disable tab rendering and use the tab side panel instead, I'm not sure if that makes a difference.

it's not that it's slow or resource hogs, it's janky which gives the same impression as being laggy

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by Isthatablackgsd »

_0w8t wrote: post #122
Isthatablackgsd wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "Vivaldi’s built-in Capture tool lets you capture either a Full Page screenshot, or a Selection of the screen that you define. It can be accessed in a number of ways through the Vivaldi UI to give you flexibility in how you implement the tool." Not difficult, it is the limitation of the OS. Desktop OSes don't have a way to tell the browser to take a screenshot of the full page. So it is limited of what it can do. T…

A Vivaldi developer here. In which OS and on which pages do you experience this effect? Also, what is DPI of the screen?

Not sure if this helps, I pulled this from Vivaldi about page.

Vivaldi 5.0.2497.24 (Stable channel) (arm64) Revision fedc9977d91d270b6659fd3b0cc8873ac07d1c0d OS macOS Version 12.0.1 (Build 21A559) JavaScript V8 9.6.180.12

Using it on MacBook Air M1, so Retina?

This happens in my work SaaS website; it is a scheduling portal.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by nsonha »

A speed chart on the Downloads panel? The same reaction I had when windows 8 added a chart for file copying speed: who cares?

I get that there are nerds who like a number for everything. Just a speed number is fine, but almost no one just sit there and watch a live chart of file copying/downloading speed, as if they have nothing else to do with their computer.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by loonster »

rjzzleep wrote: post #46
freediver wrote: post #28

Congrats to Vivaldi! There is a good interview with Vivaldi founder on Tedium [1] where he basically says that because most browsers are built on Chromium nowadays, you have to innovate on features and that is the direction they took. And really the number of features in Vivaldi is staggering including some great ones like Tab Stacking and Tab Tiling. But adding this many features took a toll on performance and it is…

Is the UI still as horribly laggy? I try vivaldi every other year because people say it's faster, but it's almost as if those people only run that beast on a desktop or fully specced 15" laptops

I've had some websites that wouldn't load properly and I had to fallback to firefox. (Prior to today, I was using 3.5. So hopefully that has been fixed)
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