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> If no jobs exist at all those voters will bring in someone who will tax companies like yours and spread the wealth. And those companies will calculate the ROI for moving into a lower tax burdensome area. After the company leaves the people wont have a job or the tax revenue.
Which is why all companies move to Somalia rather than say California
My company switched to 4-day workweeks at the beginning of 2021[0]. I can't imagine we'll ever go back. I guess it's one of the advantages of running a bootstrapped company with no VCs breathing down your neck... [0] https://blog.gingerlime.com/2020/how-we-switched-to-4-day-we...
This is awesome, congrats on making the leap! I'll be adding any of your jobs to https://4dayweek.io :)
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> I have 15 days off every 20 days instead of 8 Wait, what? How does working one day less a week get you to 15 days off?
The ratio is a little unusual but the math is right, the divisor is per days worked. 15 days off / 20 days worked (5 weeks of 4 day workweeks) 8 days off / 20 days worked (4 weeks of 5 day workweeks) Another way of saying it would be: in a 4 day work week you have 4/3 (1.33) ratio of work days to days off whereas in a traditional workweek is 5/2 (2.5). So although it is just one day it dramatically shifts the balance…
Shoutout to philmcp who was able to quit his job recently to work on https://4dayweek.io full time!
For being so progressive, I'm surprised that not a single listing I clicked had salary ranges. It's just not worth the effort of even considering these companies without salary ranges. 4-day work weeks mean nothing if it means getting paid <80% market rate.
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> Is it far in excess of minimum wage? A manager can be asked to be on call 24/7. But per hour, that is not much. So you want to pay someone for every hour they might get called, too? Even if that is a very rare responsibility? > I don’t see what it would have to do with contractors. It would further encourage contractor relationships, as I said. I don't see this as a good thing.
Yes, because as is demonstrated in real life, businesses will skimp on hiring sufficient, quality hourly staff and dump the workload on meagerly paid “managers”. One popular way is to use immigrants from one’s own country, and tie the ball and chain around them. They need the consistent employment to get established in the country, and have few options. It will not encourage contractor relationships anymore than now,…
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> it will simply require businesses to pay the hourly workers more
Why? It seems like this is a lever you're hoping to use to get the exempt workers paid more and/or a slightly greater allocation of work away from what had formerly been exempt workers.
> benefits
Why?
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For being so progressive, I'm surprised that not a single listing I clicked had salary ranges. It's just not worth the effort of even considering these companies without salary ranges. 4-day work weeks mean nothing if it means getting paid <80% market rate.
Why not? I gladly took a pay cut to be able to work 4 days a week.
I'd do four 10-hour days. if that's what it takes.
But it's not worth the effort and time to research dozens of companies if they're all going to tell me that I'd need to take a significant pay cut. And if a listing on that site doesn't have the salary range, that's what I'm going to assume is going to happen.
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Yes, because as is demonstrated in real life, businesses will skimp on hiring sufficient, quality hourly staff and dump the workload on meagerly paid “managers”. One popular way is to use immigrants from one’s own country, and tie the ball and chain around them. They need the consistent employment to get established in the country, and have few options. It will not encourage contractor relationships anymore than now,…
> It will not encourage contractor relationships anymore than now, Doubtful > it will simply require businesses to pay the hourly workers more Why? It seems like this is a lever you're hoping to use to get the exempt workers paid more and/or a slightly greater allocation of work away from what had formerly been exempt workers. > benefits Why?
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Yes, because as is demonstrated in real life, businesses will skimp on hiring sufficient, quality hourly staff and dump the workload on meagerly paid “managers”. One popular way is to use immigrants from one’s own country, and tie the ball and chain around them. They need the consistent employment to get established in the country, and have few options. It will not encourage contractor relationships anymore than now,…
> It will not encourage contractor relationships anymore than now, Doubtful > it will simply require businesses to pay the hourly workers more Why? It seems like this is a lever you're hoping to use to get the exempt workers paid more and/or a slightly greater allocation of work away from what had formerly been exempt workers. > benefits Why?
The whole concept of hourly minimum wage is undercut by the ability of businesses to pay a meager salary.
The mechanism of action for increases prices paid to workers is by decreasing supply of man hours from one individual at a low price (i.e. increasing salaries minimum).
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> It will not encourage contractor relationships anymore than now, Doubtful > it will simply require businesses to pay the hourly workers more Why? It seems like this is a lever you're hoping to use to get the exempt workers paid more and/or a slightly greater allocation of work away from what had formerly been exempt workers. > benefits Why?
Because they will need to hire more hourly workers. The whole concept of hourly minimum wage is undercut by the ability of businesses to pay a meager salary. The mechanism of action for increases prices paid to workers is by decreasing supply of man hours from one individual at a low price (i.e. increasing salaries minimum).
I think this is absolute rounding error on the number of additional hourly workers needed.
Yes, a reasonable percentage of salaried workers in low wage industries are exploited as you describe. In turn, with an hourly wage, they'll work a small percentage fewer hours.
My dad, my sister, and sister in law all work for Lockheed Martin and they do the 4-10 schedule: 4 days a week, ten hours a day, and they get every Friday off. I'm a little jealous of it, honestly; it's pretty rare that I work less than ten hours a day anyway, so I think economically it would be better for me.
Is that ten hours including lunch break (and if yes, how much?), or not? Based on the stereotypical 9-to-5 office job in the UK or elsewhere, a "40" hour work week in those countries must obviously include some amount of paid lunch break (at a guess at least half an hour, maybe even one hour, giving somewhere between 35 and at worst 37.5 actually worked hours) In Germany on the other hand lunch breaks are typically u…