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Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome

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Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome

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Post by xattt »

0x_rs wrote: post #30

I heard some people having a decent time with Edge in the past with some features implementations. Not that I would use it myself, but I'm firmly convinced these childish plays only ruin whatever good work was done on it. Who on Earth would continue using a browser that has such hostile behavior and dark patterns all over the place e.g., buy-now-pay-later at browser level? It's so hard to trust Microsoft anyway, I'm…

I’m waiting for MS to implement an feature where they mirror side-by-side in Edge whatever you are doing in another inferior browser.

Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome

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Post by prepend »

loudtieblahblah wrote: post #75
0x_rs wrote: post #30

I heard some people having a decent time with Edge in the past with some features implementations. Not that I would use it myself, but I'm firmly convinced these childish plays only ruin whatever good work was done on it. Who on Earth would continue using a browser that has such hostile behavior and dark patterns all over the place e.g., buy-now-pay-later at browser level? It's so hard to trust Microsoft anyway, I'm…

i just don't see the point, from a consumer perspective, in all the major players fighting over who's version of Chromium is the most preferred. I get why the company's care - i just don't get why anyone else does. Firefox, for all it's modern faults, is the only browser that's actually different in any substantial way.

> i just don't see the point, from a consumer perspective, in all the major players fighting over who's version of Chromium is the most preferred

I imagine the telemetry is extremely important. Knowing every activity done by every user is valuable to Google, or Microsoft, or whoever gets the chrome feed. Of course this is why I like brave, FireFox, safari and others as there is no similar telemetry.

Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

zvrba wrote: post #107
sofixa wrote: post #39

I hope Margrethe Vestager is paying attention, this bullshit is getting egregious. Microsoft not only deserve a fine, but a thorough breaking up into multiple separate entities.

Really? What does Google deserve when it nags me about switching to chrome whenever I use any of their pages from a browser that's not chrome?

Whataboutism. Google probably also deserves this treatment, but we're talking about Microsoft.

Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome

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Post by vadfa »

dotancohen wrote: post #120
majkinetor wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could do that almost 10 years ago with chocolatey the exactly same way, here is one liner iwr https://chocolatey.org/install.ps1 | iex; cinst googlechrome

And how did you get chocolatey on that new install? I'm guessing that the vast majority of users opened IE and downloaded it through that browser.

"iwr https://chocolatey.org/install.ps1 | iex" installs chocolatey without having to open IE

Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome

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Post by zamadatix »

easton wrote: post #42

Humorously, using tools built into Windows 10 and 11 now, you can open a PowerShell window, type winget install Google.Chrome, and never open Edge once if you don't want to.

This has been doable since Windows has had network connectivity, winget is just the latest way on the pile. Albeit probably the easiest yet. TFTP, FTP, SFTP, SCP, Powershell HTTP(S), curl (giving you a copy of all the prior methods), winget. That's all of the ways I can think of without getting too "make your own program"-y like VBA and whatnot.

In particular I remember utilizing the FTP method to get Firefox (avoiding IE) was all the rage in the XP era.

Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome

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Post by speeder »

userbinator wrote: post #50

That browser is so 2008! Do you know what’s new? Microsoft Edge. Newer is not always better... if only Microsoft (and the rest of Big Tech) would go back to 2008 or even earlier, when they were far less controlling. Browsers detecting specific sites and acting differently on them, unless specifically requested to do so by the user, should be prohibited. Ditto for operating systems detecting specific applications. The…

Back in 2008 MS had a lawsuit punishment against them active.

MS in 1997 or so was doing shenanigans like crash Explorer if you attempted to download Netscape (Firefox predecessor) they got sued by the EU and lost.

The lawsuit terms expired recently and Microsoft is doing exact same shit they got sued for the first time, I guess they are testing to see for how long they can get away with thsi shit before they get sued again.

Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome

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Post by y4mi »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #113
s_dev wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://support.apple.com/downloads/safari

What use are releases from 2015 today? Or are you just trolling?

Apple fanboys are generally serious, even if they always sound as if they're trolling

Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

aquir wrote: post #96

It's a shame the Linux is still "not there" to be a good replacement for Windows. I keep trying but having stupid issues all time, like my laptop is identified as a mobile device when connected to a Bluetooth multipoint headset so I can't connect to my phone and laptop in the same time :( Scaling is awful and unfortunately simply there are no good drivers for certain hardware. Windows 11 is awful, I went back to 10 w…

I agree. Linux Desktop still has all the same basic usability problems it did in the 90s. In some ways it is even worse since it has massively overcomplicated a lot of its subsystems.

Still, I foresee a future where the pain of Linux Desktop for me will be outweighed by the pain of continuing to use Windows. Which is sad. Linux Desktop will have won not on its merits, but because Microsoft just decided it didn't want to make a Desktop OS anymore.

If I get extremely lucky, it's possible Haiku will take off in the meantime and implement some of the things I'm still waiting on for it to be a decent desktop for my uses, but I'm not holding my breath.

Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome

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Post by dotancohen »

vadfa wrote: post #125
dotancohen wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And how did you get chocolatey on that new install? I'm guessing that the vast majority of users opened IE and downloaded it through that browser.

"iwr https://chocolatey.org/install.ps1 | iex" installs chocolatey without having to open IE

I see. That's why my comment was worded so carefully: though I'm sure one _could_ install chocolatey from the Windows CLI, a tiny minority ever would do so.

But that's for introducing me to the iwr command. I don't use Windows often, but it's good to know what tools are available in the rare instances that I need to. Now I need a mnemonic to remember it... "I Want Real (curl)"

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