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Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome

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Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome

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Additional ideas for Edge's PMs: silently corrupt Chrome's binary at download time, and mark the website and the binary as dangerous.

Better, use Youtube tactic and slow down the chrome processes by setting their priority lower, but make it look like it has normal one.

"Windows ain't done 'till Chrome don't run (fast)"

Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome

#92
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Humorously, using tools built into Windows 10 and 11 now, you can open a PowerShell window, type winget install Google.Chrome, and never open Edge once if you don't want to.

You could do that almost 10 years ago with chocolatey the exactly same way, here is one liner

    iwr https://chocolatey.org/install.ps1 | iex; cinst googlechrome

Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome

#93
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Not saying that there aren’t issues, but the fact that billions of people use Windows and don’t routinely have their profiles wiped out with every update points to a specific issue with your setup; not a systemic Windows problem.

Oy vey. You're objectively incorrect. It's definitely a Microsoft issue. They use the old OS upgrade procedure to do quarterly updates now which means if it finds a Users directory it will rename it to Users.old and make a new one. However if it does two upgrades in a row in the background without telling you the old Users.old will be deleted from your disk. Now all it would take them is a second to check the sizes o…

citation needed

I just upgraded to Windows 10 21H2 last week, after upgrading to 21H1 a couple weeks ago. I'm looking at my C:\ drive with hidden files viewable and there is no "Users.old" or "Windows.old" folders.

This is on Windows 10 Pro using my personal Microsoft account, but the PC is managed through Intune so I can access corporate resources.

What I'm saying is, to use your own words, "you're objectively incorrect."

Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome

#94
post #30

I heard some people having a decent time with Edge in the past with some features implementations. Not that I would use it myself, but I'm firmly convinced these childish plays only ruin whatever good work was done on it. Who on Earth would continue using a browser that has such hostile behavior and dark patterns all over the place e.g., buy-now-pay-later at browser level? It's so hard to trust Microsoft anyway, I'm…

i just don't see the point, from a consumer perspective, in all the major players fighting over who's version of Chromium is the most preferred. I get why the company's care - i just don't get why anyone else does. Firefox, for all it's modern faults, is the only browser that's actually different in any substantial way.

> Firefox, for all it's modern faults, is the only browser that's actually different in any substantial way.

...Because apparently Safari no longer exists...?

Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome

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post #30

I heard some people having a decent time with Edge in the past with some features implementations. Not that I would use it myself, but I'm firmly convinced these childish plays only ruin whatever good work was done on it. Who on Earth would continue using a browser that has such hostile behavior and dark patterns all over the place e.g., buy-now-pay-later at browser level? It's so hard to trust Microsoft anyway, I'm…

Windows releases always alternates between horrible and good enough. 11 will fester on some machines for a while like 8, Vista and ME did. Enterprise will stick to 10, and anyone who cares enough to fight dark patterns every time Windows update runs. 12 will likely be good enough for everyone to upgrade. 14 (they'll skip #13) will be garbo, 15 will be ok. Sun goes up, sun goes down.

My experience with 11 is that is just like 10 but with bad UI changes. 11 is stable and runs everything I need.

I think 11 is more about changing hardware requirements, requiring a TPM. The UI garbage seems more like an opportunity to try new things, they'll figure out that people don't like these new things.

Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome

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It's a shame the Linux is still "not there" to be a good replacement for Windows. I keep trying but having stupid issues all time, like my laptop is identified as a mobile device when connected to a Bluetooth multipoint headset so I can't connect to my phone and laptop in the same time :( Scaling is awful and unfortunately simply there are no good drivers for certain hardware.

Windows 11 is awful, I went back to 10 within a week - screen flickering, stupid scrolling issues etc.

Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome

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i just don't see the point, from a consumer perspective, in all the major players fighting over who's version of Chromium is the most preferred. I get why the company's care - i just don't get why anyone else does. Firefox, for all it's modern faults, is the only browser that's actually different in any substantial way.

What faults to you find in Firefox, when compared to Chrome? I switched a year ago and I was emotionally prepared to fight a rough battle with problematic websites, incompatible apps and so on. I was very positively surprised. The only major PITA was the fact that I had to define MIME types for downloadable documents that I wanted to save by default - the usual box "remember this option" was missing for .mkv and the…

Breaking Addons to be more compliant with a standard between other browsers - making things like TabTreeStyles not work.

Putting ads in the address bar: https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/7/22715179/firefox-suggest-...

Recording what you type in the address bar: https://today.in-24.com/technology/450296.html

Putting ads on the New Tab Page: https://www.ghacks.net/2018/12/31/firefox-with-ads-on-new-ta...

Randomly installing Addons for people: https://itsfoss.com/firefox-looking-glass-controversy/

Some times installing addons without permission to promote TV Shows: https://gizmodo.com/mozilla-slipped-a-mr-robot-promo-plugin-...

They last 5-6 years, Mozilla has made a number of baffling decisions. And most of their advancements just seem to be very 'me too, me too!' as they chase design decisions made by Google.

Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome

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Both.

Provide issue links

Here you go:

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/update...

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/update...

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/window...

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/window...

and numerous others.

Why does it happen? I have no idea, and probably Microsoft doesn't either. Nevertheless, it means the update process is broken. After such a case you may feel like you have the alternative of either running unsecure system or losing your data, so you may even consider the first option. Except you can't unless you pay for the Enterprise version.

Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome

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I want auto updates for security patches, please.

Good for you, there should be a checkbox so I don't have to suffer for your preferences.

There is, just turn off Windows Updates.
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