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Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome

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Post by paulryanrogers »

nojito wrote: post #35
0x_rs wrote: post #30

I heard some people having a decent time with Edge in the past with some features implementations. Not that I would use it myself, but I'm firmly convinced these childish plays only ruin whatever good work was done on it. Who on Earth would continue using a browser that has such hostile behavior and dark patterns all over the place e.g., buy-now-pay-later at browser level? It's so hard to trust Microsoft anyway, I'm…

How is this any different than what google does in google app?

One was already found guilty of abusing their OS near-monopoly on desktop.

Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome

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Post by bityard »

prepend wrote: post #16
JCWasmx86 wrote: post #4

> “‘I hate saving money,’ said no one ever. Microsoft Edge is the best browser for online shopping.” This is really cringe

I don’t like this new form of writing, I’m not sure what it’s called. It’s not just informal, it’s cringy. I especially hate funny error messages as they just frustrate me. It’s ok when Reddit has a funny image because they can’t show my video game forum, but it’s infuriating when Microsoft shows a “whoops, what happened” when it just failed to sync the last 30 minutes of my work document.

> I’m not sure what it’s called.

I call it "meme speak". It's the style of writing used on meme image captions or in tweets designed to generate the most number of shares and "likes".

Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome

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Post by mynameismon »

easton wrote: post #42

Humorously, using tools built into Windows 10 and 11 now, you can open a PowerShell window, type winget install Google.Chrome, and never open Edge once if you don't want to.

That is exactly what I love about Windows 11 particularly. I don't have to deal the abdominations like Microsoft News, just a winget away. Don't like Edge?

    winget uninstall -e "Microsoft.Edge"

Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome

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Post by kgwxd »

0x_rs wrote: post #30

I heard some people having a decent time with Edge in the past with some features implementations. Not that I would use it myself, but I'm firmly convinced these childish plays only ruin whatever good work was done on it. Who on Earth would continue using a browser that has such hostile behavior and dark patterns all over the place e.g., buy-now-pay-later at browser level? It's so hard to trust Microsoft anyway, I'm…

Windows releases always alternates between horrible and good enough. 11 will fester on some machines for a while like 8, Vista and ME did. Enterprise will stick to 10, and anyone who cares enough to fight dark patterns every time Windows update runs. 12 will likely be good enough for everyone to upgrade. 14 (they'll skip #13) will be garbo, 15 will be ok. Sun goes up, sun goes down.

Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome

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Post by Spivak »

formerly_proven wrote: post #24
prepend wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t like this new form of writing, I’m not sure what it’s called. It’s not just informal, it’s cringy. I especially hate funny error messages as they just frustrate me. It’s ok when Reddit has a funny image because they can’t show my video game forum, but it’s infuriating when Microsoft shows a “whoops, what happened” when it just failed to sync the last 30 minutes of my work document.

"OOPSIE WOOPSIE!! Uwu We made a fucky wucky!! A wittle fucko boingo! The code monkeys at our headquarters are working VEWY HAWD to fix this!"

At least this tone accurately conveys the seriousness of the average dev team and is more fun than “this error has been sent to an unmonitored Slack channel, if you want to scream into the void here’s a link to our community forums.”

Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome

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Post by NikolaeVarius »

0x0nyandesu wrote: post #43
tapoxi wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Outside of requiring a newer PC I don't think Win11 is a trainwreck at all, I was auto-upgraded to it a few weeks ago and it's been fine. Auto HDR is neat for games and there's been a UI refresh, other than that it's basically Windows 10.

Every windows since 7 has been a train wreck by my standards. The amount of times I've had a system update just clear my windows profile is objectively abysmal and yet every HN thread someone will go and defend them. No one cares about HDR. How about some decent data retention? I get better frame rates in Linux running wine than I do in windows 10 since the 2020 updates.

What the hell are you doing with your Windows profiles. I've admin'd many Windows machines and have a Windows install AND a VM windows install and have literally never had a problem with windows profile. Have you at least attempted to debug the issue, or can you point to a issue report you have filed?

This is someone who uses linux for 99.99% of all computing things, so its not like I'm a Windows shill

Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome

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Post by baybal2 »

tapoxi wrote: post #37
0x_rs wrote: post #30

I heard some people having a decent time with Edge in the past with some features implementations. Not that I would use it myself, but I'm firmly convinced these childish plays only ruin whatever good work was done on it. Who on Earth would continue using a browser that has such hostile behavior and dark patterns all over the place e.g., buy-now-pay-later at browser level? It's so hard to trust Microsoft anyway, I'm…

Outside of requiring a newer PC I don't think Win11 is a trainwreck at all, I was auto-upgraded to it a few weeks ago and it's been fine. Auto HDR is neat for games and there's been a UI refresh, other than that it's basically Windows 10.

Win11 is a wreck just because they effectively made it non-installable on 5 out of 6 PCs.

Prime majority of users don't upgrade BIOS, or don't even know what it is.

11 will be a short lived release just because of that, and them not only needing to backpedal, but to entice users into biting into a new bait, as all what is actually good in Win11 been kind of mentally displaced by the fiasco.

A supposedly sucks less Win11.1 will not do it to attract more users. A completely new release is coming.

Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome

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Post by 0x0nyandesu »

orev wrote: post #53
0x0nyandesu wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every windows since 7 has been a train wreck by my standards. The amount of times I've had a system update just clear my windows profile is objectively abysmal and yet every HN thread someone will go and defend them. No one cares about HDR. How about some decent data retention? I get better frame rates in Linux running wine than I do in windows 10 since the 2020 updates.

Not saying that there aren’t issues, but the fact that billions of people use Windows and don’t routinely have their profiles wiped out with every update points to a specific issue with your setup; not a systemic Windows problem.

Oy vey. You're objectively incorrect. It's definitely a Microsoft issue. They use the old OS upgrade procedure to do quarterly updates now which means if it finds a Users directory it will rename it to Users.old and make a new one. However if it does two upgrades in a row in the background without telling you the old Users.old will be deleted from your disk.

Now all it would take them is a second to check the sizes of both and not remove the one with actual data but ya know that would be a actual useful feature.

And before you complain about to me about my "setup"... The scenario I described above is entirely common in IT departments the world over.

Now please stop blaming victims and start blaming the people that have the power to change things.

Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome

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Post by drcongo »

coliveira wrote: post #56
tapoxi wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Outside of requiring a newer PC I don't think Win11 is a trainwreck at all, I was auto-upgraded to it a few weeks ago and it's been fine. Auto HDR is neat for games and there's been a UI refresh, other than that it's basically Windows 10.

> I was auto-upgraded to it a few weeks ago The train wreck starts there. Who wants a system that auto upgrades itself without the user permission?

That, and most of the rest of the parent comment, made me believe the post was a joke.

Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome

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Post by kgwxd »

coliveira wrote: post #56
tapoxi wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Outside of requiring a newer PC I don't think Win11 is a trainwreck at all, I was auto-upgraded to it a few weeks ago and it's been fine. Auto HDR is neat for games and there's been a UI refresh, other than that it's basically Windows 10.

> I was auto-upgraded to it a few weeks ago The train wreck starts there. Who wants a system that auto upgrades itself without the user permission?

Technically that's a flaw of Windows 10, maybe they fixed it in 11 :)
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