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Re: I became the internet’s most notorious bike thief

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Post by jackvalentine » Thu, Dec 02, 2021, 3:24 AM UTC

GuB-42 wrote: post #140

jackvalentine wrote: post #139

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I understand what you’re saying but perhaps the reader should be required to put the effort in to read 11 words rather than seeing a shorthand and jumping to conclusion!

I am strongly in favor of the least effort principle. So if an article can spare me a second of effort, I take it. I particularly appreciate it when a journalist recognizes that their readers attention is precious and gets to the point without wasting it. (I know, ads, but that's another subject) By least effort, I don't mean that people should make no effort, but I don't want to force them just because it feels virt…

In my opinion the least effort principle here undermines the actual purpose of the article though. It’s not about being virtuous it’s about them actually taking the time to understand 11 words without shortcuts which you may get wrong.

11 word headlines are already a shortcut and there is a point where more shortcuts are just taking the piss. Besides, on the internet I’ve probably already committed to clicking on an article before I see most illustrations.

I think illustrative pictures should always add to an article, not be a shortcut to decide interest.

“This public square on Franklin Street is the number one place to have your bike stolen in London” not “remember what a bike looks like?”

The “only respond to the headline” problem HN has is an extended version of the problem.

Re: I became the internet’s most notorious bike thief

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Post by darkwater » Thu, Dec 02, 2021, 11:28 AM UTC

gruturo wrote: post #120

darkwater wrote: post #49

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Yes and no. E-bikes start at 2-3k EUR and the norm is 5-6k. Obviously you can buy a road bike for 15k EUR as well but most will gravitate toward the 1-3K EUR range.

> Yes and no. E-bikes start at 2-3k EUR and the norm is 5-6k. Absolutely no. Crappy ebikes start at 700, OK ebikes start at 1000-1200 and anything above 2.5k is enthusiast territory. And these prices are still a lot higher than they should be, in my opinion. I posted previously on the issue - they are so expensive, compared to cars, while using far less metal and other resources, fewer IP concerns, not having all the…

I have to admit I'm not that into ebikes but these were the price I casually saw in bike shops. But maybe they were just showing off the best models.

Re: I became the internet’s most notorious bike thief

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Post by darkwater » Thu, Dec 02, 2021, 11:29 AM UTC

b112 wrote: post #61

darkwater wrote: post #49

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Yes and no. E-bikes start at 2-3k EUR and the norm is 5-6k. Obviously you can buy a road bike for 15k EUR as well but most will gravitate toward the 1-3K EUR range.

15k euro!!! What, is it made of carbon nanotubes or something?! Clearly more of a fashion statement, than quality difference.

Well, those are pro models, and you pay the brand as well, but I definitely saw a Bianchi top of the line at ~20k EUR (before discounts etc)

Re: I became the internet’s most notorious bike thief

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Post by b112 » Thu, Dec 02, 2021, 4:50 PM UTC

darkwater wrote: post #143

b112 wrote: post #61

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15k euro!!! What, is it made of carbon nanotubes or something?! Clearly more of a fashion statement, than quality difference.

Well, those are pro models, and you pay the brand as well, but I definitely saw a Bianchi top of the line at ~20k EUR (before discounts etc)

Crazy. That's like a 10M dollar car, IMO.