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Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

#281

A reminder: just because you don't see any meaningful activities happening on www., don't assume that the owner is domain squatting. Folks make use of their domains in a variety of ways, not just for hosting a website on www.

Can namecheap.com do a package deal for hosting a Gemini site with down the line add-on for VPS? I don't want the Wordpress stuff.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

#282
post #38

What's the reasoning or history behind why domain prices A) vary between TLDs and B) are allowed to be sold at any price (think huge markups from domain speculating)?

Once you have enough users, you can raise the price and they can't easily flee. For example, I (regrettably) have a .io domain with my own email, and moving away from it would be super painful. I'd have to make sure that I update my email *everywhere* (or risk my accounts getting hijacked), and even reach out to people with whom I communicate very infrequently. TBH, I _should_ do it, but I can image that taking aroun…

> TBH, I _should_ do it, but I can image that taking around a year.

And even then, it will probably feel bad to let it expire just because you might have forgotten an account. That's why I still have my very first email. And it's a lot of effort for saving a few bucks a year (at least in the US and the EU, for poorer countries the story might be different). Unfortunately, that's exactly what Ethos is exploiting.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

#283

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While I like the idea of using blockchain-determined name ownership; there's a few problems. First, you have the problems that you get just because of how blockchains work[0]. But moreso there are specific chicken-and-egg problems with migrating away from standard DNS: - Because DNS is well-established and everyone uses it, most websites want to be registered in DNS, and blockchain names provide little to no value to…

I think big tech and entertainment will actively fight against blockchain domains if it comes to it. Their brands are massively squatted on from what I've seen. Here's a single ETH wallet that's squatting on a solid 40 .eth domains with high value trademarks: https://app.ens.domains/address/0x140eF05a724CA161d49ffE8D97... Do you think `microsoft` or `disneyland` or `amazonprime` or `barclays`, etc. are going to be on…

You're not wrong, but I'm getting tired of explaining to cryptobros that possession of a cryptographic private key is not equivalent to legal ownership of property.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

#284

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I like the idea of using blockchain-determined name ownership; there's a few problems. First, you have the problems that you get just because of how blockchains work[0]. But moreso there are specific chicken-and-egg problems with migrating away from standard DNS: - Because DNS is well-established and everyone uses it, most websites want to be registered in DNS, and blockchain names provide little to no value to…

I think big tech and entertainment will actively fight against blockchain domains if it comes to it. Their brands are massively squatted on from what I've seen. Here's a single ETH wallet that's squatting on a solid 40 .eth domains with high value trademarks: https://app.ens.domains/address/0x140eF05a724CA161d49ffE8D97... Do you think `microsoft` or `disneyland` or `amazonprime` or `barclays`, etc. are going to be on…

All of the top domains which make up the majority of web traffic were reserved to the domain holders on Handshake [1].

[1] https://dns.live/top.html

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

#285
post #15

How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.

In some countries, if you want to register a domain that's parked, you may appeal to the registrar, and they will take it away from the parker (unless they're legitimately planning to use it). The conditions of use of the domain state that you will give them _some_ use. "Planning to resell it" it is not considered a valid use. It's a public resource after all. As an analogy, imagine someone buys all the housing in to…

Even if this is true, it is very easy to circumvent. Just host a blog with a few copy-pasted articles, a fake classifieds site, or a forum with registration closed, or something like that.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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post #86

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Not all navigation is through links.

What non-link navigation needs a domain name? IP addresses work fine, like phone nmbers and street addresses.

Things like cloudflare "host" thousands of sites behind the same IP. Old-school shared hosting providers are doing the same.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

#287
post #235

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How about hiding the address bar? Would make domain names irrelevant

That's awesome for phishing.

It is. Would require an actual solution to prevent phishing - it's easy to overlook facebook.com.example.com

I highly doubt showing the domain prevents any meaningful amount of phishing attempts.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

#288
post #86

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How about hiding the address bar? Would make domain names irrelevant

Not all navigation is through links.

Like? All my use cases are covered by links and history search. And even then I sometimes go through google because I cant remember if it was com or net or org or some other cute domain name.

I was only half joking previously. Why require a solution when you can remove the problem instead?

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

#289
post #39

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Is there any objective reason (performance, reliability, etc) to avoid certain TLDs?

The $1 TLDs like .top .xyz .fun etc will be blocked in a lot of places due to heavy spam and malware distribution.

Purely untrue for .xyz, which has an excellent anti—abuse program and scores equal or less than .com in abuse stats. Why would Square, Inc rebrand on block.xyz if that were true? Check it out :)

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

#290

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Can you suggest one? I'm interested in a gTLD that won't raise its prices suddenly and is of good reputation - so FB and co. won't block it.

.org is controlled by a non-profit and I believe it has reasonable controls on price increases. (Private equity recently tried to obtain .org and jack up the prices, but the acquisition was blocked by ICANN https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/05/icann-blocks-con... )

> the acquisition was blocked by ICANN

Putting it that way is very charitable towards ICANN. They only blocked it after much public outcry and after the CA attorney general started an inquiry [0]. There is no reason to believe that they won't try again after the frog is sufficiently boiled.

[0] https://www.theregister.com/2020/04/17/icann_california_org_...

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