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Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

#191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's solved in some [rather left leaning] countries. When you buy land you must put it to use, and if it's unused after X years, it's considered abandoned and it goes up for sale again. TBH, I think it's a solid model -- buying a finite resource like land merely with the intent to deprive others of it and make a profit in the long term is as unethical as it gets. Though completely legal is most places, of course.

With land, not using it is the equivalent to a privately funded conservation site. Its not necessarily a bad thing. Many capitalistic countries also have adverse possession laws, where if someone uses the land for X number of years, it becomes theirs.

This loophole is solved by making it that declaring the land as such status means the land is commited to that use for a minimum number of years that makes the conservation meaningful. Something like a decade minimum with a high bar for converting it for other usage afterwards. Farmers in the UK for instance already have some incentives to leave some fields alone.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

#192
post #15

How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.

I believe if you kill the parked domain industry it will be harmful to legitimate businesses. Why? Because these domain squatters provide a valuable service - making sure domains are still purchasable by legitimate businesses, even if at a premium. Get rid of them, and people will go out and get various domains they like and might use one day (or redirect to the same spot), with no intention of selling them. More domains, not fewer, will languish.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

#193
post #41
post #15

How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.

At this point, there are many alternative gTLDs that can be used for personal sites, and quite a few are super cheap. Maybe the squatters will catch up and eventually buy them all up but for now there's a decent availability.

I just bought a throwaway domain for a little project- somehow we have exponentially more domains available than ever, yet nothing is as cheap as a 5-character .net was when I registered my first domain ~5 years ago...

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

#194
post #186

Ted from Namecheap here. Donuts, who now operates the .io TLD, is only increasing the wholesale price by ~10%. We are still obviously not happy about this since it's always our goal to ensure that domain pricing is as accessible as possible to our customers. It would appear that Gandi has just chosen to substantially increase their markup as part of this Donuts update. Our pricing will likely only increase a small am…

Thanks Ted for the update. I bought my io domain from you guys many years ago when it was $70 or so. Thanks for keeping the price low over the years and for the update.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

#195
post #194
post #186

Ted from Namecheap here. Donuts, who now operates the .io TLD, is only increasing the wholesale price by ~10%. We are still obviously not happy about this since it's always our goal to ensure that domain pricing is as accessible as possible to our customers. It would appear that Gandi has just chosen to substantially increase their markup as part of this Donuts update. Our pricing will likely only increase a small am…

Thanks Ted for the update. I bought my io domain from you guys many years ago when it was $70 or so. Thanks for keeping the price low over the years and for the update.

Thanks for choosing us!

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

#196
post #15

How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.

An app, perhaps call it ParkSurfing@Home that does nothing but silently visit parked domains in the background to burn up all their ad revenue without ever clicking on any links, making them completely worthless for advertising purposes. Wouldn't stop the main issue but it might kick in the rear.

That would have no effect. Ads are served from adservers, not content pages.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

#197
post #15

How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.

I thought domain squatting violated US law? Is there some loophole or is paying just cheaper/quicker?

Only if the domain is violating a trademark.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

#198
post #186

Ted from Namecheap here. Donuts, who now operates the .io TLD, is only increasing the wholesale price by ~10%. We are still obviously not happy about this since it's always our goal to ensure that domain pricing is as accessible as possible to our customers. It would appear that Gandi has just chosen to substantially increase their markup as part of this Donuts update. Our pricing will likely only increase a small am…

TBF to Gandhi, IIRC they tend to give favourable prices when you buy domains or deposit funds in bulk. Their opening tier of prices are indeed pricey. Their API is excellent though.

I've always found Namecheap to be price competitive and their customer service is pretty good also. API was always a bit basic (think that had a lot to do with enom implementation)

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

#199
post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about hiding the address bar? Would make domain names irrelevant

Not all navigation is through links.

What non-link navigation needs a domain name?

IP addresses work fine, like phone nmbers and street addresses.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

#200

The .io TLD is owned by Ethos Capital. The same private equity company that tried to buy the .org TLD a while ago. Go figure...

From their website: "OUR ETHOS Drive prosperity for all stakeholders We believe that long-term success is best accomplished through a thriving ecosystem in which prosperity is shared amongst all stakeholders." [1] Bullshit, they exist to squeeze every little penny left in a company out and then dump the hollowed out remains on the stock market to die. [1] https://ethoscapital.com/about-us/

The stake that is held is driven through the heart of the company.
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