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Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Post by kall »

rsync wrote: post #163
LgWoodenBadger wrote: post #82

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Help me understand how filename is useful in a way that other metadata doesn’t already cover, please.

"Help me understand how filename is useful in a way that other metadata doesn’t already cover, please." If your "music library" is post-iTunes then it isn't that useful - you have compressed media files with metadata embedded in them. However if your music library is older than itunes and consists of lossless WAV/PCM files there is no metadata . There is only the filename.

That sounds like a situation iTunes/Apple Music is completely unfit for. I think foobar2000 was able to manage that kind of thing? You gotta see that it's a niche situation, not something that even most people who seriously care about their library do.

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Post by CivBase »

heavyset_go wrote: post #36
andrewla wrote: post #16

Google Play Music was extremely album-focused, but their move over to YouTube Music has basically scrapped that. GPM even let you modify the metadata for albums; I had used this to strip out things like "(2020 Remaster Special Gold Edition)" from album names, and to cut "bonus" tracks off of albums (nothing as fun as playing an album and then getting a two hour long spoken word interview with Quincy Jones), and final…

YouTube Music is the reason I moved over to self-hosted Jellyfin to host my music collection.

Same here, except I went with a self-hosted Emby server. For me, one of the real valuable features of GPM was the ability to sync playlists and albums locally on my PC or phone. Emby lets me do that, but it infortunately doesn't sync playlists yet. I don't think Jellyfin has any local sync support, though.

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Post by kall »

taylodl wrote: post #62

Having recently upgraded to Catalina (I've been running Mojave for quite some time now!) I somehow completely missed the boat that iTunes is gone and has been replaced with Music. Apparently the functionality of iTunes has been split between Finder (sync iPhone, rip CDs) and Music. Music had all my iTunes purchases (good), but none of my albums I'd legally ripped from my CDs. Long story short, I had to import the lib…

Wow, that sounds super annoying. What version of macOS did you upgrade from?

As long as Music remains the only Mac app with "OK" and "Cancel" buttons on the Preferences window, iTunes lives!

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Post by busterarm »

mayneack wrote: post #144
andrewla wrote: post #16

Google Play Music was extremely album-focused, but their move over to YouTube Music has basically scrapped that. GPM even let you modify the metadata for albums; I had used this to strip out things like "(2020 Remaster Special Gold Edition)" from album names, and to cut "bonus" tracks off of albums (nothing as fun as playing an album and then getting a two hour long spoken word interview with Quincy Jones), and final…

Like several other comments here, I had the same experience as you and decided to go with plex. What no one mentioned is that plex allows you to add a tidal library in addition to your self hosted content. It's not a perfectly seamless experience because you have to mark tidal albums one at a time to add to your self hosted library and I don't think you can cache them offline on plexamp (for android at least), but it…

I found Plex fairly useless for managing my music library but throwing everything into my Synology's Audio Station and connecting via DS Audio has been amazing.

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Post by busterarm »

bsanr2 wrote: post #131
stavros wrote: post #63

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Remember Grooveshark?

Grooveshark was better than any other service - including Pandora - at exposing me to music that I wasn't expecting to love but did anyway.

Grooveshark and the early years at Last.fm... Gosh I miss those.

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Post by vlunkr »

jumelles wrote: post #189
vlunkr wrote: post #87

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I'm considering taking a break from spotify premium and I'm wondering what the cheapest way to buy music is these days. It seems like buying and ripping used cd's might actually be the way to go. Of course you don't get FLAC that way.

What? Ripping CDs is one of the best ways to get a high-quality FLAC.

Oh, I guess I didn't really know what FLAC was lol. cool!

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Post by kall »

elsonrodriguez wrote: post #187
kall wrote: post #174

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In what way are they second class? I actually feel the opposite way, because I can use only uploaded/matched tracks in apps like Djay, Capo or GarageBand.

My only lament is lack of family sharing, other than that it's been seamless for me.

Oh that's unfortunate. I remember when you used to be able to share your whole iTunes library with people over the network, possibly even over the internet?

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Post by Tiktaalik »

achairapart wrote: post #34

Spotify, Apple Music, Tidal, Google Music or whatever now is called. I tried them all. They are all the same to me. There is one big thing that all these streaming services are missing: *METADATA* Give me all the album by this label, all the songs produced by X or all the songs where in Y plays drums. All the albums recorded at some studio in the year Z. With tools like this I will spend years (and whatever money) on…

Listing who performed on the album would add so much more value to these services.

Like a song, why not show the performers so that users can what else they worked on. They'll probably like other projects the performer was involved in.

Apple does have little writeups about albums which I like. Nice to have context about what the album is and why it might be worth listening to.

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Post by OldHand2018 »

etchalon wrote: post #76
OldHand2018 wrote: post #64

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I guess it's not just me: It is confusing. I thought there were two ways to get music from Apple but apparently there are at least 3. One of which gives you re-downloadable DRM-free files.

There's only two ways. Apple Music (streaming) and iTunes Store. iTunes Match lets you "upload" your library to Apple. It matches your library against Apple's catalog. If they have the song, you get a copy of their version of the song. If it doesn't have a match, they retain your uploaded file. I have a lot of random local music that isn't on iTunes, and which you can't easily find anymore. For years, I was paranoid…

Thanks :)

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Post by holler »

bsanr2 wrote: post #131
stavros wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remember Grooveshark?

Grooveshark was better than any other service - including Pandora - at exposing me to music that I wasn't expecting to love but did anyway.

Grooveshark and later Rdio were my favorite music sites ever... best UI and easy to use
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