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Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Post by loudtieblahblah »

xanaxagoras wrote: post #94
loudtieblahblah wrote: post #85

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you can't do this on iOS. Even if you could get a phone with a large enough SDcard, natively ... transfering that much to the phone would be prohibitively painful. And one might be tempted to go through that once, but to go through it every time you get a new phone would drive you mad. I have a 500GB card in my android and have 70% of my digital collection on it. I, also, make the card the primary destination for my…

Does PowerAmp have any streaming ability? Seems simple enough to drop that library onto a cheap home server and be your own streaming service once SD cards are completely gone.

It has a "streams" function. I've never used it.

I've heard good things about airsonic (https://airsonic.github.io/). I used SubSonic before and i just didn't like the clients that connected to it. AirSonic is based on SubSonic but there's supposedly a bunch of improvements.

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Post by hnrodey »

andrewla wrote: post #95
commandlinefan wrote: post #91

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> an unlimited virtual store and bring whatever content I want and organize it recursively by tags Isn't that what Spotify and Pandora are?

I've never used Pandora in a paid mode, so I can't speak to that. Spotify has some features that map to this, but is way more artist focused than album focused. When you click on an artist, you get the artist's page, and navigating to the albums that you have added by that artist is nearly impossible. That is, there's no way to engage hierarchically -- to say "I want to listen to a Neil Young album that is in my coll…

Create a playlist from the album so that it's in your "collection" (of playlists). That's only way I know how to accomplish.

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Post by standardUser »

andrewla wrote: post #16

Google Play Music was extremely album-focused, but their move over to YouTube Music has basically scrapped that. GPM even let you modify the metadata for albums; I had used this to strip out things like "(2020 Remaster Special Gold Edition)" from album names, and to cut "bonus" tracks off of albums (nothing as fun as playing an album and then getting a two hour long spoken word interview with Quincy Jones), and final…

Google Play was ideal because I could upload any of my own music and it was part of my library, accessible anywhere in the world.

Does any service like that still exist? I'm stuck with Spotify, which lacks dozens and dozens of albums that are important to me, and it won't let me upload them myself.

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Post by loudtieblahblah »

danaris wrote: post #93
loudtieblahblah wrote: post #85

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you can't do this on iOS. Even if you could get a phone with a large enough SDcard, natively ... transfering that much to the phone would be prohibitively painful. And one might be tempted to go through that once, but to go through it every time you get a new phone would drive you mad. I have a 500GB card in my android and have 70% of my digital collection on it. I, also, make the card the primary destination for my…

> you can't do this on iOS I beg your pardon? First of all, a nitpick: > Even if you could get a phone with a large enough SDcard, natively ...iPhones don't use SD cards for storage. They never have. They have internal flash storage. - With that out of the way: I have a 10,000 song collection that I sync to my iPhone. It's only about 60GB of music. iPhones come with up to 512GB of internal storage, and there's an opt…

>512GB of internal storage

That you have to share with photos/videos, apps, downloads, and everything else.

>syncing your music to convert higher-bitrate music to 128kbps (or 192 or 256kbps, your preference) AAC files.

Yeah, see - this isn't really your music collection then but reliance on Apple's Library and them "matching it" with what they have. I could never sync from their library b/c their library wouldn't have huge chunks of my actual digital collection.

I have hip hop mixtapes, Grateful Dead livesets, local artists who never had a major record deals (Fighting Gravity and a variety of punk bands), EDM live sets, and tons of stuff not in the Apple/iTunes Library they could never do anything with.

Secondly, like 30% of my collection is in FLAC, which Apple doesn't even support.

>I have no idea where you get the idea that you can't fit a decent-sized music library on an iPhone.

Because my music library is:

Server: $ du -sh Music/

905G Music/

Phone: 305GB ( i recently purged a ton to make space for videos/pictures )

Even if i was dealing with 60GB and even if i could rely on what was in their library - pulling down 60GB to a phone is painful. It takes me literal SECONDS to swap and SDcard from one phone to another as opposed to hours over WiFi.

Nevermind on android i can move files via ftp, smb, or any number of protocols. Even over the wire - it's plug and play. Copy and paste through any Windows, Mac or Linux file manager.

Thus, I don't have to rely on apple's crappy proprietary music apps to move files over a network or even a USB/lightning cable.

>Maybe you're one of those who believes that only lossless audio is worth listening to, and didn't consider that that's a niche opinion...?

No. I have a lot that's 320K mp3s. In fact, the grand majority of it is. Maybe 5-10% of my collection is worse quality than that. Virtually nothing is at 128k or worse. I typically stay away from Apple specific formats, lossless or not, regardless of their benefits.

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Post by lolsal »

jdpedrie wrote: post #41
btown wrote: post #7

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If you consistently like/heart songs as you go along, put your Liked Songs list on shuffle sometime - you'll find great old gems!

This hardly works at all for me. Spotify will happily shuffle the most recent 75-100 songs on my Liked Songs list, but something from 2012? Forget about it.

I thought I was just imagining this behavior. Humans are bad at 'random', but I swear when I randomly play my 300+ song playlist, I tend to hear the same 20-40 songs over a couple hours.

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Post by MBCook »

standardUser wrote: post #103
andrewla wrote: post #16

Google Play Music was extremely album-focused, but their move over to YouTube Music has basically scrapped that. GPM even let you modify the metadata for albums; I had used this to strip out things like "(2020 Remaster Special Gold Edition)" from album names, and to cut "bonus" tracks off of albums (nothing as fun as playing an album and then getting a two hour long spoken word interview with Quincy Jones), and final…

Google Play was ideal because I could upload any of my own music and it was part of my library, accessible anywhere in the world. Does any service like that still exist? I'm stuck with Spotify, which lacks dozens and dozens of albums that are important to me, and it won't let me upload them myself.

Apple Music does.

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Post by morsch »

standardUser wrote: post #103
andrewla wrote: post #16

Google Play Music was extremely album-focused, but their move over to YouTube Music has basically scrapped that. GPM even let you modify the metadata for albums; I had used this to strip out things like "(2020 Remaster Special Gold Edition)" from album names, and to cut "bonus" tracks off of albums (nothing as fun as playing an album and then getting a two hour long spoken word interview with Quincy Jones), and final…

Google Play was ideal because I could upload any of my own music and it was part of my library, accessible anywhere in the world. Does any service like that still exist? I'm stuck with Spotify, which lacks dozens and dozens of albums that are important to me, and it won't let me upload them myself.

Spotify actually lets you do that, so you're in luck. Add local files on your desktop to a playlist, download the playlist on your mobile device, done. I'm using the feature, it works. Though it does not work with my "Spotify remote play" (or whatever they're calling it) kitchen radio.

The feature is so niche, I half expect them to drop it without a word in any given update.

https://community.spotify.com/t5/Android/Play-quot-local-fil...

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Post by hbn »

standardUser wrote: post #103
andrewla wrote: post #16

Google Play Music was extremely album-focused, but their move over to YouTube Music has basically scrapped that. GPM even let you modify the metadata for albums; I had used this to strip out things like "(2020 Remaster Special Gold Edition)" from album names, and to cut "bonus" tracks off of albums (nothing as fun as playing an album and then getting a two hour long spoken word interview with Quincy Jones), and final…

Google Play was ideal because I could upload any of my own music and it was part of my library, accessible anywhere in the world. Does any service like that still exist? I'm stuck with Spotify, which lacks dozens and dozens of albums that are important to me, and it won't let me upload them myself.

Spotify is actually the only one of the big 3 (Spotify, Apple Music, YouTube Music) that doesn't have a cloud music locker feature, and it's basically the entire reason I can't use it.

However, both YouTube Music and Apple Music treat your uploaded stuff as second-class citizens to the stuff streamed from their music collection. Which is one of the biggest reasons I miss GPM, since it was much better for that.

YouTube Music has a pretty intuitive music uploading system, though it comes with all the previously mentioned baggage of YTM. With Apple Music you have to upload through Apple Music on a Mac or iTunes on a PC, and it's a real clunky system that usually takes me a bunch of finagling and forcing syncs over and over again until it finally works. So pick your poison

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