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Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Post by commandlinefan »

andrewla wrote: post #16

Google Play Music was extremely album-focused, but their move over to YouTube Music has basically scrapped that. GPM even let you modify the metadata for albums; I had used this to strip out things like "(2020 Remaster Special Gold Edition)" from album names, and to cut "bonus" tracks off of albums (nothing as fun as playing an album and then getting a two hour long spoken word interview with Quincy Jones), and final…

> an unlimited virtual store and bring whatever content I want and organize it recursively by tags

Isn't that what Spotify and Pandora are?

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Post by CameronNemo »

heavyset_go wrote: post #36
andrewla wrote: post #16

Google Play Music was extremely album-focused, but their move over to YouTube Music has basically scrapped that. GPM even let you modify the metadata for albums; I had used this to strip out things like "(2020 Remaster Special Gold Edition)" from album names, and to cut "bonus" tracks off of albums (nothing as fun as playing an album and then getting a two hour long spoken word interview with Quincy Jones), and final…

YouTube Music is the reason I moved over to self-hosted Jellyfin to host my music collection.

Another option is Funkwhale. I've not tried it, but it seems cool.

https://funkwhale.audio/apps/

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Post by danaris »

loudtieblahblah wrote: post #85
Gatsky wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iOS or Android? What do you use to listen?

you can't do this on iOS. Even if you could get a phone with a large enough SDcard, natively ... transfering that much to the phone would be prohibitively painful. And one might be tempted to go through that once, but to go through it every time you get a new phone would drive you mad. I have a 500GB card in my android and have 70% of my digital collection on it. I, also, make the card the primary destination for my…

> you can't do this on iOS

I beg your pardon?

First of all, a nitpick:

> Even if you could get a phone with a large enough SDcard, natively

...iPhones don't use SD cards for storage. They never have. They have internal flash storage.

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With that out of the way: I have a 10,000 song collection that I sync to my iPhone. It's only about 60GB of music. iPhones come with up to 512GB of internal storage, and there's an option when syncing your music to convert higher-bitrate music to 128kbps (or 192 or 256kbps, your preference) AAC files. I guarantee you, a library the size of hasbot's will fit on an iPhone with no problem.

I have no idea where you get the idea that you can't fit a decent-sized music library on an iPhone. Maybe you're one of those who believes that only lossless audio is worth listening to, and didn't consider that that's a niche opinion...?

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Post by xanaxagoras »

loudtieblahblah wrote: post #85
Gatsky wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iOS or Android? What do you use to listen?

you can't do this on iOS. Even if you could get a phone with a large enough SDcard, natively ... transfering that much to the phone would be prohibitively painful. And one might be tempted to go through that once, but to go through it every time you get a new phone would drive you mad. I have a 500GB card in my android and have 70% of my digital collection on it. I, also, make the card the primary destination for my…

Does PowerAmp have any streaming ability? Seems simple enough to drop that library onto a cheap home server and be your own streaming service once SD cards are completely gone.

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Post by andrewla »

commandlinefan wrote: post #91
andrewla wrote: post #16

Google Play Music was extremely album-focused, but their move over to YouTube Music has basically scrapped that. GPM even let you modify the metadata for albums; I had used this to strip out things like "(2020 Remaster Special Gold Edition)" from album names, and to cut "bonus" tracks off of albums (nothing as fun as playing an album and then getting a two hour long spoken word interview with Quincy Jones), and final…

> an unlimited virtual store and bring whatever content I want and organize it recursively by tags Isn't that what Spotify and Pandora are?

I've never used Pandora in a paid mode, so I can't speak to that.

Spotify has some features that map to this, but is way more artist focused than album focused. When you click on an artist, you get the artist's page, and navigating to the albums that you have added by that artist is nearly impossible. That is, there's no way to engage hierarchically -- to say "I want to listen to a Neil Young album that is in my collection". You have to either decide on the album from memory and just find it, or you have to go to the artist and hope that the album you like is one of the "recommended" or "hot" ones by Neil Young.

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Post by kaladin-jasnah »

willis936 wrote: post #25
andrewla wrote: post #16

Google Play Music was extremely album-focused, but their move over to YouTube Music has basically scrapped that. GPM even let you modify the metadata for albums; I had used this to strip out things like "(2020 Remaster Special Gold Edition)" from album names, and to cut "bonus" tracks off of albums (nothing as fun as playing an album and then getting a two hour long spoken word interview with Quincy Jones), and final…

I've been on the same journey. My plan is to self host plex. Cache the music I want, VPN/stream when I want to add more to the cache.

I have Qobuz combined with mpd (there's a plugin). It's not the cheapest but it's decent for what you get and the UI is simple and doesn't get in your way. My only regret is that it doesn't have lyrics AFAIK.

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Post by heavyset_go »

NewJazz wrote: post #90
heavyset_go wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YouTube Music is the reason I moved over to self-hosted Jellyfin to host my music collection.

Where do you source your originals? Bandcamp is my go to, but not all artists publish there. Amazon often has physical CDs and MP3s for artists, but I have not patronized them for such goods (yet). My process for downloading from Bandcamp, extracting the files, and syncing them to the storage could be automated a bit more I think.

Bandcamp, and for old/obscure things I can't buy elsewhere, SoulSeek.

edit: forgot about discogs.com

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Post by heavyset_go »

CameronNemo wrote: post #92
heavyset_go wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YouTube Music is the reason I moved over to self-hosted Jellyfin to host my music collection.

Another option is Funkwhale. I've not tried it, but it seems cool. https://funkwhale.audio/apps/

This is a nice one, too. I just couldn't get it to play nicely with Docker Swarm.

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Post by Yhippa »

AlexandrB wrote: post #39
echelon wrote: post #28

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The degradation of Google Play Music into YouTube Music has to be one of the most disappointing product merges in history. All of the power functionality disappeared. I can't even find the music I want anymore without great effort. As a consequence, I'm listening to my favorite artists less frequently, and haven't even thought about concerts, festivals, albums, etc. A dumb but rich tabular music + metadata store woul…

Seems like something similar happened to Google Pay[1] as well. With a few exceptions Google seems to suck at discerning between good and bad products. It'll shelve the likes of Reader or neuter Google Play Music, but insist on pushing garbage like G+. [1] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/03/the-new-google-pay-r...

This one boggles my mind. To take something that worked resonably well and degrade it into...whatever it is now is such a bad feeling. I guess Resume Driven Development is alive and well there.

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Post by [deleted] »

blakes wrote: post #50
echelon wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The degradation of Google Play Music into YouTube Music has to be one of the most disappointing product merges in history. All of the power functionality disappeared. I can't even find the music I want anymore without great effort. As a consequence, I'm listening to my favorite artists less frequently, and haven't even thought about concerts, festivals, albums, etc. A dumb but rich tabular music + metadata store woul…

I miss GPM so much. No one I know in person knew it existed, yet they still get to listen to my rants about Google killing the one true music service. I too have been finding music discovery difficult since GPM shutdown. YouTube Music is getting better at discovery fortunately, but I'm not finding multiple new albums/artists per week, more like 1-2 new albums or artists every couple weeks. One of my favorite GPM feat…

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