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Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by forty »

ted0 wrote: post #186

Ted from Namecheap here. Donuts, who now operates the .io TLD, is only increasing the wholesale price by ~10%. We are still obviously not happy about this since it's always our goal to ensure that domain pricing is as accessible as possible to our customers. It would appear that Gandi has just chosen to substantially increase their markup as part of this Donuts update. Our pricing will likely only increase a small am…

What about the future increase of .sh? I own one for personal stuff, and it's apparently going to increase from ~40€ to ~73€ which is a bit hard to swallow for personal use.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by ipaddr »

WhyNotHugo wrote: post #90
cj wrote: post #15

How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.

In some countries, if you want to register a domain that's parked, you may appeal to the registrar, and they will take it away from the parker (unless they're legitimately planning to use it). The conditions of use of the domain state that you will give them _some_ use. "Planning to resell it" it is not considered a valid use. It's a public resource after all. As an analogy, imagine someone buys all the housing in to…

Which countries?

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by ipaddr »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #149
cj wrote: post #15

How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.

> How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? The simplest solution would be to revoke domains with domain parking pages on them. If the domain contains an offer to sell the domain, you lose the domain. That wouldn't solve 100% of the problem, but it would solve 80% of the problem, and that's better…

What problem does this solve? Most domains are sold through exchanges

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by ted0 »

RKearney wrote: post #230
ted0 wrote: post #186

Ted from Namecheap here. Donuts, who now operates the .io TLD, is only increasing the wholesale price by ~10%. We are still obviously not happy about this since it's always our goal to ensure that domain pricing is as accessible as possible to our customers. It would appear that Gandi has just chosen to substantially increase their markup as part of this Donuts update. Our pricing will likely only increase a small am…

> it's always our goal to ensure that domain pricing is as accessible as possible to our customers. Then why not charge $30 for an .io domain like CloudFlare does instead of $39.98/yr?

We would love to and we are always striving to get as close to wholesale as possible but we do have operating costs — domains are essentially our core business and we have 1,000+ CS agents + a large risk/abuse team that works around the clock to focus on the customer experience. Anyone who is selling domains with no markup at all is taking a loss in some form and/or treating it as a loss leader for other products.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by aj3 »

orangepanda wrote: post #70
cj wrote: post #15

How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.

How about hiding the address bar? Would make domain names irrelevant

That's awesome for phishing.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by jbaber »

ted0 wrote: post #186

Ted from Namecheap here. Donuts, who now operates the .io TLD, is only increasing the wholesale price by ~10%. We are still obviously not happy about this since it's always our goal to ensure that domain pricing is as accessible as possible to our customers. It would appear that Gandi has just chosen to substantially increase their markup as part of this Donuts update. Our pricing will likely only increase a small am…

I cannot pass up the opportunity to personally thank you for NameCheap.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by snthd »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #149
cj wrote: post #15

How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.

> How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? The simplest solution would be to revoke domains with domain parking pages on them. If the domain contains an offer to sell the domain, you lose the domain. That wouldn't solve 100% of the problem, but it would solve 80% of the problem, and that's better…

>The simplest solution would be to revoke domains with domain parking pages on them.

Parked domain pages are less bad than shallow fluff designed to try and improve pagerank.

>If the domain contains an offer to sell the domain, you lose the domain.

That could be used maliciously.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by ipaddr »

Covzire wrote: post #181
cj wrote: post #15

How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.

An app, perhaps call it ParkSurfing@Home that does nothing but silently visit parked domains in the background to burn up all their ad revenue without ever clicking on any links, making them completely worthless for advertising purposes. Wouldn't stop the main issue but it might kick in the rear.

It would burn up your local resources and that of the adserver. Ads are loaded client-side.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by ipaddr »

gowld wrote: post #199
dhosek wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not all navigation is through links.

What non-link navigation needs a domain name? IP addresses work fine, like phone nmbers and street addresses.

We are moving to ip6 not away

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by mysterydip »

ted0 wrote: post #186

Ted from Namecheap here. Donuts, who now operates the .io TLD, is only increasing the wholesale price by ~10%. We are still obviously not happy about this since it's always our goal to ensure that domain pricing is as accessible as possible to our customers. It would appear that Gandi has just chosen to substantially increase their markup as part of this Donuts update. Our pricing will likely only increase a small am…

Thanks for the transparency and great service! I have all but one of my domains there now (register.com had a deathgrip on until I got fed up with their process and let it lapse. Now it sits available for $370, which I'm not willing to shell out)
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