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Re: AWS Private 5G

#161

This is such a dick move. Ex-AWS superstars built https://www.soracom.io/ , made AWS folks aware, who balked at a deal. Example 1198170892703973...

Interesting, didn't Soracom end up going to KDDI in 2017? Is KDDI even getting rid of them / are they even for sale now or was this an old deal?

$187M for an exit is not that large. Were they offering a price in that range to AWS?

It feels a bit like some of the AWS IoT offerings are throw stuff at wall style.

Re: AWS Private 5G

#162

This is such a dick move. Ex-AWS superstars built https://www.soracom.io/ , made AWS folks aware, who balked at a deal. Example 1198170892703973...

Probably not as inexpensive, and not a great deal, as the original Redshift was, I guess.

Yup, Ken is not an ignorant negotiator. Happily they had a very good exit with KDDI, but it just sits with me wrong. Hugs Simone!!

Re: AWS Private 5G

#163

This is such a dick move. Ex-AWS superstars built https://www.soracom.io/ , made AWS folks aware, who balked at a deal. Example 1198170892703973...

I don’t really follow you here. Is soracom entitled to 100% market share?

It seems odd that some HN folks think idea is patentable

Re: AWS Private 5G

#164

Become a telecom as a service! Super cool. For those who are glancing over, this is a big deal. 5G isn't really like 4G upgraded. It's more its own thing. I believe this has been available though for a while and many telecoms have partnerships with FAANG beyond Amazon. With 5G you can essentially split a network into multiple partitions and scale them independently on-demand called Network Slicing. (like cloud comput…

Please excuse my vast ignorance but wouldn't Tesla, Uber or whomever need to deploy a massive network of 5g towers for that? Or is more that Tesla/Uber/etc could much more easily become an MVNO-like-provider because of network slicing?

at this point these are 2 sides of telecom have nearly evolved to completely separate industries

one services towers on the ground. base stations. maintenance. physical network deployment

the other is the services of running the network. roaming agreements. customer management. internet breakout

tesla and other vehicle makers may see value owning the service side but very unlikely they want to maintain a network

Re: AWS Private 5G

#165

Sounds like they are selling Wifi++ - what confuses me is how/why Amazon is involved, apart from selling the hardware. Is there a subscription piece? The implication of this product concerns me, although maybe it's just a communication issue. Amazon is selling this as an Amazon product, but wifi isn't an Amazon product, nor is 5G. They are retailing the gear to put up a 5G network - so why call it a "product" and rol…

Basically Modern 5G ( allows ) moving most of the compute, controller to the cloud. That is why 5G is much more cost effective from Carrier's POV.

For something truly like WiFi it would be Standalone NR-U ( New Radio Unlicensed ).

I am just wondering if it will ever be cost effective for consumers.

Re: AWS Private 5G

#166

This is such a dick move. Ex-AWS superstars built https://www.soracom.io/ , made AWS folks aware, who balked at a deal. Example 1198170892703973...

Interesting, didn't Soracom end up going to KDDI in 2017? Is KDDI even getting rid of them / are they even for sale now or was this an old deal? $187M for an exit is not that large. Were they offering a price in that range to AWS? It feels a bit like some of the AWS IoT offerings are throw stuff at wall style.

No, the balk happened then, in 2017 AFAIK.

Re: AWS Private 5G

#167
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I wonder which smart TV provider will be the first to use this instead of home wifi where people can disable or black hole connectivity.

Don't think that's the use case. how would AWS deploy a base station to my home? But you have a real point, and AWS already solved that with the 3G enabled Kindles by having carrier agreements. Why not doing that with Smart TVs?

> how would AWS deploy a base station to my home?

The TV company will deploy base station(s) in my town. Embed SIM cards in TVs they ship. No need to connect to my home WiFi to send personalised data back to their servers, or to upgrade firmware etc.,

Re: AWS Private 5G

#168

Become a telecom as a service! Super cool. For those who are glancing over, this is a big deal. 5G isn't really like 4G upgraded. It's more its own thing. I believe this has been available though for a while and many telecoms have partnerships with FAANG beyond Amazon. With 5G you can essentially split a network into multiple partitions and scale them independently on-demand called Network Slicing. (like cloud comput…

Huh?

This doesn't seem to use AT&T at all, and amazon is actually bringing their own hardware too.

This isn't MVNO-aaS. Its Antenae-aaS.

Re: AWS Private 5G

#169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please excuse my vast ignorance but wouldn't Tesla, Uber or whomever need to deploy a massive network of 5g towers for that? Or is more that Tesla/Uber/etc could much more easily become an MVNO-like-provider because of network slicing?

The second comment. The telecoms via 5G have been positioning themselves to rent their infrastructure on-demand. The AWS partnership is this but Amazon then re-extending it to developers on their platform as part of their "Cloud" offerings. I doubt Amazon has many towers of their own here and are almost entirely through one of the telecoms.

But this doesn't use telco towers? Amazon is literally selling antenae.

Re: AWS Private 5G

#170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please excuse my vast ignorance but wouldn't Tesla, Uber or whomever need to deploy a massive network of 5g towers for that? Or is more that Tesla/Uber/etc could much more easily become an MVNO-like-provider because of network slicing?

The second comment. The telecoms via 5G have been positioning themselves to rent their infrastructure on-demand. The AWS partnership is this but Amazon then re-extending it to developers on their platform as part of their "Cloud" offerings. I doubt Amazon has many towers of their own here and are almost entirely through one of the telecoms.

Isn’t this service nothing related to using existing infrastructure?

It looks like Amazon is sending you base stations to set up a private network in one location.

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