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I have seen stories of smart TVs doing active scans for any unsecured wifi network in range, then connecting and phoning home without ever informing the user or showing anything in the menus. Is that a real thing?
How would the TV phone home if it's not connected to the internet?
Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?
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#372Earlier quoted context omitted.
"doing active scans for any unsecured wifi network in range"
This doesn’t seem like a practical thing for manufacturers to implement. How common are such networks in actuality? Literally the only time I ever encountered unsecured Wi-Fi networks in the past several years were guest networks, and all of those were gated by a capture portal that would have blocked any sort of attempt at telemetry or ad serving.
In terms of what, lines of code? Engineer days?
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#374All TV's are dumb tv's if you only use them as an external display/monitor and don't connect them to the net. I have a dedicated computer for a media center and just use HDMI1 input on the TV. Never enter menus. Never update the OS. Never agree to anything. Never let the TV "phone home." Never set up wifi. Never connect a CAT5 to it. Set the input using the remote and forget it. Treat it as a dumb monitor. Computer i…
That's sadly not really true. I have an LG that I (thought) I was using this way until one day in the middle of watching some TV I get a prompt about a OnePlus phone trying to control my TV, do I want to accept? Needless to say and didn't, but I was baffled by what happened. Turns out that the stupid TV is controllable via an app over bluetooth, and there is no way to turn bluetooth off. I'm just stuck with my TV con…
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4K OLED monitors are insanely expensive. You can get an LG 65" OLED TV for $1,800. The OLED computer monitors I have seen start at $4,000.
A Gigabyte FO48U (48" OLED, same LG panel as the C1) goes for around $1500
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#378All TV's are dumb tv's if you only use them as an external display/monitor and don't connect them to the net. I have a dedicated computer for a media center and just use HDMI1 input on the TV. Never enter menus. Never update the OS. Never agree to anything. Never let the TV "phone home." Never set up wifi. Never connect a CAT5 to it. Set the input using the remote and forget it. Treat it as a dumb monitor. Computer i…
What’s stopping the TV from taking OTA updates through data sub-channels on TV channels? Satellite receivers have had this type of capability for a few decades.
It's hard to imagine streaming services like YouTube, NetFlix and whoever agreeing to do anything of that sort.
Indeed, my guess is right about this seems to be in the right ballpark:
Re: Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?
#379The last time this topic was posted someone posted this link about advertising displays that are 4K with inputs and tuner and no "smart" features: https://www.sharpnecdisplays.us/products/displays#1 .
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#380Digital Signage. https://www.sharpnecdisplays.us/products/displays#1 https://www.samsung.com/us/business/displays/ https://www.lg.com/us/business/digital-signage