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Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by ksec »

taurath wrote: post #732
rexreed wrote: post #726

I remember spending a summer on the Twitter campus and the whole time I was wondering - why the heck does Twitter need all these employees (5500 as of last count [0])? The functionality hasn't budged much in years. I get the need for IT ops to keep stuff running (especially since failwhale days). But honestly, I never got why Twitter couldn't do with 1/10 the staff they have / had. I hope this great resignation wave…

Automated ad networks still require a lot of engineering and relationship management

I would have thought even 2000 engineers on Ad Network is still pretty insane.

And their Operating Expense keeps growing with Gross Profits.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by dang »

milesward wrote: post #739
rexreed wrote: post #726

I remember spending a summer on the Twitter campus and the whole time I was wondering - why the heck does Twitter need all these employees (5500 as of last count [0])? The functionality hasn't budged much in years. I get the need for IT ops to keep stuff running (especially since failwhale days). But honestly, I never got why Twitter couldn't do with 1/10 the staff they have / had. I hope this great resignation wave…

Ahh yet another person who sees the user facing systems as "the product", or worse "the hard part". Sigh.

Please edit snarky swipes like "Ahh yet another person who" out of your comments here. As the site guidelines say, a good critical comment teaches us something.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by bin_bash »

tinyhouse wrote: post #685
snarkypixel wrote: post #659

There's zero explanation in the email for why he resigned. He's re-iterating the point that the company is fine moving forward with the rest of the board, the new CEO and the existing team, but no actual reason as to why he left.

When a CEO leaving the same day the news come out, it means it wasn't his decision.

They've fired him before and last year he nearly got fired by the board when an activist investor came on board. I think if that was the case it would be public knowledge.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by dang »

surfingdino wrote: post #665

He's left to focus on his ideas for making money with Bitcoin. Compared to crypto, Twitter is just not very exciting.

"Eschew flamebait. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents."

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29384379.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by smsm42 »

blocked_again wrote: post #682
mjamil wrote: post #608

I'm in a post-Thanksgiving charitable mood, so thank you, Jack. The execution hasn't been perfect (as has been commented on ad nauseam), but Twitter is the closest to a worldwide-accessible [1] Speaker's Corner [2] I know of, and that - despite all the completely valid criticism - is a valuable public service: mediating access to information has been the defining tool of control for those in power pretty much since c…

> FWIW, you've also championed transparency and decentralization for your platform more than any other SV social media titan Twitter don't even have an RSS feed let alone championing decentralisation.

They are actively making even access to individual tweets very cumbersome to people without logins. I guess maybe compared to something like facebook where you are completely blocked without login it's ok, but "almost inaccessible" is only a small step ahead of "completely inaccessible" - that's hardly championing anything, let alone "decentralization" which Twitter is actively hostile to.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by ksec »

snarkypixel wrote: post #659

There's zero explanation in the email for why he resigned. He's re-iterating the point that the company is fine moving forward with the rest of the board, the new CEO and the existing team, but no actual reason as to why he left.

Twitter, ~$35B Market Cap, no profits, operating expenses keeps growing with Gross Profits. Future projection of profitability is still slim. Along with trillions of social / political issues that you have to due with because you are running social media.

Square, ~$100B Market Cap, profitable, still mainly US based and growing. Crypto and Payment. Lots of potentials.

It is not too hard to pick which one to run.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by tqi »

milesward wrote: post #757
tqi wrote: post #641

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it's necessarily a business incentives/metrics thing. Rather I think a social media experience can be at most 2 of 3: - Uncensored/unmoderated - Encompasses all viewpoints - Civil

I do not think you can get a site to be uncensored and remain civil, assuming anonymity.

I think if its sufficiently niche (topic or membership wise), the communities can have fairly civil conversations (and even disagreements). I think this is largely due to the fact that being niche means its less likely to attract troll-types looking for a platform.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by Nimitz14 »

garmaine wrote: post #526
dang wrote: post #502

Earlier quoted context omitted.

" Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something. " https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I don’t think that was a shallow dismissal…?

How the hell is it not?

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by systemvoltage »

basisword wrote: post #160
johncena33 wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter is THE social media I am not able to use without letting it affect my mental health. Anytime I logged into Twitter, I came out more angry, bitter and outraged. It's like the whole platform is built around hot takes, dunking, bullying, and outrage. It always baffles me how mainstream media never utters a word how toxic Twitter is.

Completely agree. On top of that, even if you avoid the politically charged stuff, there is just a staggering amount of bullshit. “Thought leaders” with tens of thousands of followers all tweeting the same broad ideas as if they’re original thoughts.

Oh god. The thought leaders. The truly despicable aspect of Twitter. These people pop up on my feed and it’s just extremely cringeworthy. No need to explain in depth what their thoughts are. Just 140 characters and off you go.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by busterarm »

ryan93 wrote: post #755
busterarm wrote: post #290

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Social media can be fixed by legislating it out of existence. It doesn't even need a watchdog agency like the environment does.

Care to explain why your hackernews profile says "Censors have never been on the right side of history" ?

That's not censorship.

I'm not out celebrating when a country like Turkey or something blocks Twitter.

No, I'm advocating the Amish approach. It's perfectly reasonable and noble for a society to get together and decide "we're not going to use X". There's nothing censorial about that. It's the same kind of logic people use to advocate against things like ICEs and eating meat. Are vegans trying to "censor" your meat-eating? No. It's the same kind of reasoning behind us having _any_ laws to begin with.

And I'm not even talking about blocking Twitter. I'm saying that legislatively we should make sure that no company with a product like it can do business in our country(-ies). The same way that we have laws in place that prevent companies from business practices like "dumping toxic waste next to your housing development" under threat of force (like we will fine you to hell and back and then throw you in prison). Is that censorship too?

Come back with a more thoroughly-reasoned argument, please.

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