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Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by cauthon »

vlunkr wrote: post #648
gameswithgo wrote: post #539

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN is heavily moderated, which is interesting given how often it is used as a platform to decry censorship.

I don't think that's a contradiction personally. Most reasonable people accept that some level of censorship is necessary for a good discussion, especially when hundreds or thousands of people are involved. HN style moderation doesn't exactly scale to twitter size easily though.

I think OP is pointing out the irony that HN is popular among people who claim to not accept that.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by taurath »

rexreed wrote: post #726

I remember spending a summer on the Twitter campus and the whole time I was wondering - why the heck does Twitter need all these employees (5500 as of last count [0])? The functionality hasn't budged much in years. I get the need for IT ops to keep stuff running (especially since failwhale days). But honestly, I never got why Twitter couldn't do with 1/10 the staff they have / had. I hope this great resignation wave…

Automated ad networks still require a lot of engineering and relationship management

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by at-fates-hands »

superflit2 wrote: post #710
snarkypixel wrote: post #659

There's zero explanation in the email for why he resigned. He's re-iterating the point that the company is fine moving forward with the rest of the board, the new CEO and the existing team, but no actual reason as to why he left.

Maybe there is a current trial or lawsuit that could damage his reputation and then the company? Like a trial that is touching a lot of big players in tech? something.. something.... L*** express? Thus resigning is better for the shareholders and him.

You're seeing a lot of political consolidation around getting rid of, or revamping considerably section 230 which most social media platforms have been protected from lawsuits for a while now.

When you have both parties in agreement that FB, Twitter and Google are a threat to free speech and democracy, you best watch out.

This was my thought. The heat was getting too much for him. Law makers repeatedly asking him to come testify on this and that. The pressure to get rid of 230, and have better controls on banning people may have just worn on him enough where he just decided to toss in the towel and move onto something else and quietly disappear.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by winternett »

mjamil wrote: post #608

I'm in a post-Thanksgiving charitable mood, so thank you, Jack. The execution hasn't been perfect (as has been commented on ad nauseam), but Twitter is the closest to a worldwide-accessible [1] Speaker's Corner [2] I know of, and that - despite all the completely valid criticism - is a valuable public service: mediating access to information has been the defining tool of control for those in power pretty much since c…

Twitter Blue apparently was another not so great idea I guess...

Look folks, Twitter was never really profitable and it showed. Innovation has been lagging for years, and they had to rely on sensationalism from Trump that simply can't be allowed to persist any more.

The profit model has changed, and therefore the CEO music change.

The big question is where it all will go next. I can think of several ideas that will improve the platform, but nobody asked me to write them, and I'm not getting paid CEO money by them to spit it out.

The biggest question now is what will happen next... I guarantee you though, any more plots to start billing users and turn Twitter into more of a "pay-for-play-ware" or "freemium" service will lead to a giant user base exodus. ;/

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by rexreed »

taurath wrote: post #732
rexreed wrote: post #726

I remember spending a summer on the Twitter campus and the whole time I was wondering - why the heck does Twitter need all these employees (5500 as of last count [0])? The functionality hasn't budged much in years. I get the need for IT ops to keep stuff running (especially since failwhale days). But honestly, I never got why Twitter couldn't do with 1/10 the staff they have / had. I hope this great resignation wave…

Automated ad networks still require a lot of engineering and relationship management

What's the usual ratio of engineering / relationship management per ad dollar revenue?

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by snarkypixel »

snarkypixel wrote: post #659

There's zero explanation in the email for why he resigned. He's re-iterating the point that the company is fine moving forward with the rest of the board, the new CEO and the existing team, but no actual reason as to why he left.

Replying to my own comment, but if I had to guess (on absolutely zero context and evidence :p), I would say he wants to focus on crypto/Square, and Twitter is more of a time sink. Twitter is in a good enough state at the moment that the team can move without him so it's a good moment to leave.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by smt88 »

sneak wrote: post #694
smt88 wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every website you've ever used decides what you're allowed to read on their site.

My web host is a service. Twitter is a service. I was hosting my own content on Twitter's service, same as I do on my web host.

> I was hosting my own content on Twitter's service, same as I do on my web host.

In both cases, you're not "hosting your own content" by anyone's definition of the term. You're paying someone to host it. Anyway, all web hosts have rules aka terms of service aka censorship.

It's my right (and Twitter's) to offer a service that has terms, and those terms can include removal of speech that I feel is bad for my business. This is a basic freedom of association -- I don't have to do business with people whose speech I don't like, and I certainly don't have to broadcast it.

Arguing that Twitter must be a neutral host is like arguing that Uber or Airbnb can't ban customers for saying racist things (both have) or that Facebook must accept 100% of ads.

If you are conveying someone's speech as a service as part of a for-profit, private business, you can choose not to convey that person's speech for any reason. There is no demand in the US (Constitutional, statutory, or otherwise) that a private entity broadcast the speech of another entity. In fact, that's a violation of the broadcaster's First Amendment rights (as repeatedly upheld by liberal and conservative justices, over and over again).

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by ldehaan »

More people need to quit twitter. The employees should all quit if their owners won't convert to a 501-c3 and submit to a large community elected board. Otherwise this will just be the tool of our destruction. Censorship should be censored, it's not healthy and so there should be a censorship board dedicated to censoring censorship at . Or just stop telling people what they can see and hear, Twitter is the new Facebook, i quit Facebook 6 Years ago and now it's the fogey platform, they're even rebranding like a grandmother dying her hair. Soon twatter will be the fogey platform and facechuck will meta itself out of existence. Good riddance. IRC is dead, long live IRC!

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by milesward »

rexreed wrote: post #726

I remember spending a summer on the Twitter campus and the whole time I was wondering - why the heck does Twitter need all these employees (5500 as of last count [0])? The functionality hasn't budged much in years. I get the need for IT ops to keep stuff running (especially since failwhale days). But honestly, I never got why Twitter couldn't do with 1/10 the staff they have / had. I hope this great resignation wave…

Ahh yet another person who sees the user facing systems as "the product", or worse "the hard part". Sigh.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by rexreed »

milesward wrote: post #739
rexreed wrote: post #726

I remember spending a summer on the Twitter campus and the whole time I was wondering - why the heck does Twitter need all these employees (5500 as of last count [0])? The functionality hasn't budged much in years. I get the need for IT ops to keep stuff running (especially since failwhale days). But honestly, I never got why Twitter couldn't do with 1/10 the staff they have / had. I hope this great resignation wave…

Ahh yet another person who sees the user facing systems as "the product", or worse "the hard part". Sigh.

Which systems are the "hard" parts? Given zero functionality change, how much larger can and should Twitter grow? Is the complication a function of ad revenue, volume of content, user traffic?
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