Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

I resigned from Twitter

twitter.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

191–200 of 1001 posts

Re: I resigned from Twitter

#191

Post by viro »

ziddoap wrote: post #161
perardi wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was under the impression that, at SpaceX, Musk is the “vision guy”, and Gwynne Shotwell is doing the nitty-gritty day-to-day operations. https://www.wired.com/story/how-elon-musk-gwynne-shotwell-jo... As for Neuralink and The Boring Company…well, I am typing this, not using my brain-machine interface, and my friend took the Blue Line from O’Hare this morning, and not some underground supertrain. https://www.chicago…

> As for Neuralink and The Boring Company…well, I am typing this, not using my brain-machine interface, and my friend took the Blue Line from O’Hare this morning, and not some underground supertrain. I'm not sure what point you intended to get across with this take. I don't own any Lenovo products, is Lenovo defunct? Edit: Yikes. My analogy isn't perfect, sorry folks.

it would be closer to if Lenovo had no products.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

#192

Post by snowwrestler »

tootie wrote: post #127
user-the-name wrote: post #18

About time. Twitter has been absolutely floundering for years under his control, since he has absolutely no idea why anyone is using the site and has just been throwing random ideas copied from others at the wall to see what sticks (nothing, so far), and cryptocurrency garbage nobody wants.

Not to sound like a Boomer, but I still genuinely don't get what Twitter is for. I actually finally created an account a year ago and most of my follows are pretty high-brow (journalists, various industry experts, some big shots in my outer circle) and I still get almost no value from it. They use twitter to post inside jokes or promos to web content that I didn't have trouble finding without twitter. Maybe 1 out of…

Twitter is the absolutely fastest way to get new information. For example the “Omicron” variant surfaced into my Twitter feed last week minutes after the first briefing by South African health authorities, when it was still known only by its numerical designation, before any news service had written it up.

The value of this is that it gives me more time to spend digging deeper into topics that matter to me. I don’t have to keep the TV on in the background all the time to maintain situational awareness. I don’t have to constantly skim basic news articles just to know what is happening.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

#194

Post by astroalex »

throwaway2077 wrote: post #186
nafizh wrote: post #97

People love to bash Dorsey but he had more of a backbone than Zuckerberg in every possible way. And while the game is always about money, Dorsey did try to improve the eco-system in a principled way even if arguably he failed in many ways - this courage was probably there because he was a founder of the company. The new CEO will be more like Pichai at Google or Cook at Apple - only there to make money.

remarkably, those who bash him are the same people twitter has done everything to bend over backwards for. same on reddit, facebook, twitch, etc. people on the opposite side of the privileged class are barely allowed to exist on those platforms - only if they police their speech very carefully to avoid breaking a myriad of vague and unwritten rules, and even then they're still subject to being unpersoned for some per…

> only if they police their speech very carefully to avoid breaking a myriad of vague and unwritten rules, and even then they're still subject to being unpersoned for some perceived offense committed off-platform

Not sure what you're talking about. Can you provide examples/evidence?

Re: I resigned from Twitter

#195

Post by beagle3 »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #132
handrous wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've noticed that lots of C-suite and owner/CEO startup people have like three to five active business roles on their Linkedins. A fun case of "rules for thee, but not for me" when it comes to anti-moonlighting clauses and such. I can't "give it my all" if I take some weekend gigs, but you can hold two C-suite positions, be on two boards, plus have an "advisory" role with some startup? It's a lot like drug testing fo…

Careful, you're dangerously close to realizing that Executives at companies provide vanishingly little day to day value to companies. I'd bet in most companies the CEO is basically just a buffer between the board and the rest of the company, and essentially a fall guy position so the board can avoid accountability.

Some. But it’s worth looking at the exceptions to understand the range.

On one hand, you have Elon Musk at Tesla and Zuck at FBMeta. Their board is essentially non existent.

On the other hand, we had Carly Fiorina, who wasn’t even buffering the board, and was quite horrible at executing.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

#196

Post by jandrese »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #132
handrous wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've noticed that lots of C-suite and owner/CEO startup people have like three to five active business roles on their Linkedins. A fun case of "rules for thee, but not for me" when it comes to anti-moonlighting clauses and such. I can't "give it my all" if I take some weekend gigs, but you can hold two C-suite positions, be on two boards, plus have an "advisory" role with some startup? It's a lot like drug testing fo…

Careful, you're dangerously close to realizing that Executives at companies provide vanishingly little day to day value to companies. I'd bet in most companies the CEO is basically just a buffer between the board and the rest of the company, and essentially a fall guy position so the board can avoid accountability.

But oh man, when it is time to replace the CEO the first thing you hear is "we have to offer those millions of dollars or some other company will snipe our CEO!" CEO is the only job where the company suddenly decides that it does have to offer the most money to attract the top talent.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

#197

Post by renewiltord »

duxup wrote: post #154
koheripbal wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter is extremely toxic and divisive, and Dorsey is... the same. People are hoping his removal will allow the platform to mature.

>allow the platform to mature What does that mean? The medium is the message and Twitter is curt, prone to exaggeration / outrageous / mean spirited content.... and the people on there EAT IT UP. What is going to mature?

Twitter is only like that if one consumes that content. Like, if one only ever follows John Carmack and Gwern, that won't be the experience. Saying Twitter is mean-spirited is essentially the same as saying that no matter where one goes one smells shit. Everyone who feels that way should check the bottom of their shoe.

I suggest Matthew 7:5 for them.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

#198

Post by tenpies »

ziddoap wrote: post #161
perardi wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was under the impression that, at SpaceX, Musk is the “vision guy”, and Gwynne Shotwell is doing the nitty-gritty day-to-day operations. https://www.wired.com/story/how-elon-musk-gwynne-shotwell-jo... As for Neuralink and The Boring Company…well, I am typing this, not using my brain-machine interface, and my friend took the Blue Line from O’Hare this morning, and not some underground supertrain. https://www.chicago…

> As for Neuralink and The Boring Company…well, I am typing this, not using my brain-machine interface, and my friend took the Blue Line from O’Hare this morning, and not some underground supertrain. I'm not sure what point you intended to get across with this take. I don't own any Lenovo products, is Lenovo defunct? Edit: Yikes. My analogy isn't perfect, sorry folks.

> I don't own any Lenovo products

Exactly. Lenovo has viable and desirable products that you could purchase if you were so inclined. That's not the case for Boring and Neuralink.

Boring makes a D-grade tourist attraction and offers no viable solution to the problem they claim to be solving.

Neuralink's biggest success has been in bringing attention to the field, but has made no actual progress of its own.

And that's not to say they won't bring viable products/solutions some day, but it's clear where Musk shines (e.g. bringing in money, hype, PR) and where he's atrocious (e.g. executing, planning, people). Shotwell is a fantastic example of a CEO using Musk where he shines, and keeping him away from where he's bad. What Tesla, Boring, and Neuralink all need are their own respective Shotwells.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

#199

Post by fl0wenol »

fundad wrote: post #121
tricky wrote: post #22

What kind of board allows an announcement like this to happen in such an uncontrolled way? I feel like this is just more evidence that Twitter's board is weak.

There was more drama than we know. This was brewing for a while. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/twitter-paul-singer-republi...

This makes me uncomfortable. Not the idea of it per se, but the narrative the GOP's anti-cancel-culture bloc builds around it. Echoes of Thiel's involvement with Bollea vs. Gawker.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

#200

Post by badRNG »

throwaway2077 wrote: post #186
nafizh wrote: post #97

People love to bash Dorsey but he had more of a backbone than Zuckerberg in every possible way. And while the game is always about money, Dorsey did try to improve the eco-system in a principled way even if arguably he failed in many ways - this courage was probably there because he was a founder of the company. The new CEO will be more like Pichai at Google or Cook at Apple - only there to make money.

remarkably, those who bash him are the same people twitter has done everything to bend over backwards for. same on reddit, facebook, twitch, etc. people on the opposite side of the privileged class are barely allowed to exist on those platforms - only if they police their speech very carefully to avoid breaking a myriad of vague and unwritten rules, and even then they're still subject to being unpersoned for some per…

> people on the opposite side of the privileged class are barely allowed to exist on those platforms - only if they police their speech very carefully to avoid breaking a myriad of vague and unwritten rules, and even then they're still subject to being unpersoned for some perceived offense committed off-platform.

I'm having trouble understanding what any of this means

Post reply on HN