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Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by gonehome »

sporkland wrote: post #80
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #31

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> you're not going to be able to give the focus a solo CEO is. I agree. As much as he tried to justify the dual CEO roles, it never made any sense. It was also maddening to watch him shift to a 3rd focus of promoting cryptocurrency and his own cryptocurrency investments. Hanging on to the CEO role of both Twitter and Square put him in a great position to push both companies toward more cryptocurrency integration, but…

Would you critique Musk in a similar way? Honest question, because it's eerie how you could swap Dorsey for Musk and the statements would still apply but seem much less true.

Yeah, musk is the perfect counter example. In the brief time he left Tesla in someone else’s hands the other CEO almost killed it.

I'm also skeptical of Jack's claim about founder led companies. When you're the exec handing things over you'd have to make some comment like that to show your trust is entirely behind the new person. I don't really buy it though.

Also I thought Evan Williams and Biz Stone were the Twitter founders? Maybe I'm forgetting the history.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by easrng »

golergka wrote: post #76
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #52

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> it never felt like it was being done for the benefit of the users of each platform. Cynically, I'm yet to see any crypto that benefits anyone but the people that invented it (they benefit the most) and the savvy traders trying to make a buck (and sometimes succeeding at the expense of others).

Bitcoin benefits drug users and dealers every single day, and have been doing it for almost 10 years. May be in US it's different, but there's just no street drug trade anymore around here. If you want to buy weed, you have to buy bitcoin, in some shape or form.

That's a terrible idea. Bitcoin is completely public, you should use a privacy coin like Monero or ZCash.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by akudha »

sadfev wrote: post #84

Good riddance, but if history is a guide then an even more awful human being will head that toxic garbage of a company.

When it comes to social media companies, it is all relative. Compared to Facebook, Twitter seems like a saint.

They definitely could do more, but remember they did more than other social media companies - warnings on tweets, banning accounts etc.

This is not ideal, but I don't think any social media company is going to do more than Twitter did. Sad state of affairs

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by thendrill »

golergka wrote: post #76
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it never felt like it was being done for the benefit of the users of each platform. Cynically, I'm yet to see any crypto that benefits anyone but the people that invented it (they benefit the most) and the savvy traders trying to make a buck (and sometimes succeeding at the expense of others).

Bitcoin benefits drug users and dealers every single day, and have been doing it for almost 10 years. May be in US it's different, but there's just no street drug trade anymore around here. If you want to buy weed, you have to buy bitcoin, in some shape or form.

You mean Monero thou. Why use bitcoin?

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by AbsoluteNonce8 »

wpietri wrote: post #78
AbsoluteNonce8 wrote: post #64

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Not really :). 5 years is a pretty arbitrary, flattering timeline. Twitter is +18% all time growth. Facebook doubled a billion to 2B then to 3B users. In the same time span Twitter plateaud their user growth. Love the product, but the company is horrific in building things. The 3x growth is only because they finally figured out monetization 7-8 years post ipo and rode the rising Ad wave that lifted all CPMs across Sn…

What's your evidence that Twitter's market is significantly larger? Non-tech people sometimes ask me whether they should get on Twitter. I ask them why they might want it, and very often my answer is, "No, don't worry about it." And that's coming from somebody who uses Twitter enough to have two separate accounts plus a Twitter bot (sfships). Twitter, like HN, is a niche social network. [1] Twitter's niche is much la…

You’re slightly missing my point. I’m not claiming twitter’s niche is bigger. I’m saying for a social network to plateau at 300M users for 7-8 years that’s very embarrassing. Especially when the positioning was that “we’re a Facebook alternative.” For a social network to figure out tablestakes monetization 7-8 years post-ipo, that’s equally damning. The biggest offender is actually the glacial product development that Twitter has. Several Rudimentary features non-existent or canned because of analysis paralysis.

I’ll actually challenge you on the niche point. Twitter is niche because they completely failed to elevate the product experience to the masses. Mark was able to bring Facebook beyond a college network, Spiegel built snap beyond teens and texting, but Twitter continually fails for the average mom and pop. Every single piece of user research and UX audit finds Twitter to be very confusing for new users.

So Twitter being niche isn’t a victory. It’s an admission of defeat a la segways

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by rohit89 »

ryzvonusef wrote: post #28

> you're not going to be able to give the focus a solo CEO is How the fuck does Elon do it then? The mf has like four concurrent organizations under his helm. > I think the bigger issue is who gets to replace him: will it be someone with smart ideas or someone to serve as a puppet of activist investors? The rising stock price implies yes. Elliot MG has been desperate to make twitter the next mega app. Expect payment…

From what I see, his system seems to be about focusing on one company, one problem at a time. Neuralink and Boring are side projects. And I believe he definitely doesn't recommend running two companies at a time.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by nafizh »

People love to bash Dorsey but he had more of a backbone than Zuckerberg in every possible way. And while the game is always about money, Dorsey did try to improve the eco-system in a principled way even if arguably he failed in many ways - this courage was probably there because he was a founder of the company. The new CEO will be more like Pichai at Google or Cook at Apple - only there to make money.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by tjr225 »

golergka wrote: post #76
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it never felt like it was being done for the benefit of the users of each platform. Cynically, I'm yet to see any crypto that benefits anyone but the people that invented it (they benefit the most) and the savvy traders trying to make a buck (and sometimes succeeding at the expense of others).

Bitcoin benefits drug users and dealers every single day, and have been doing it for almost 10 years. May be in US it's different, but there's just no street drug trade anymore around here. If you want to buy weed, you have to buy bitcoin, in some shape or form.

Where I live, you just go to the weed store and use USD.
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