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Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by jl6 »

Imagine a new CPU CVE is announced.

It has the potential to corrupt customer data, but the likelihood and severity of the corruption hasn’t been established yet (it could be anything from flipping ECC-correctable bits through to total system compromise).

The flaw is exploitable over the network, and affects potentially all CPUs. The only way to avoid any risk of compromise is to disconnect your servers from the network.

Millions of people depend on your servers. Some of them will die if their data is corrupted. Some of them will die if you disconnect your servers and cut them off from accessing their data.

It will take security researchers about a month to work out the likelihood and severity of corruption, and about 3 months to deliver a fix. By the time we find out, the corruption may already have affected your servers. The eventual fix isn’t guaranteed to be reliable, nor can it fix corruption that has already happened.

The CVE may already have been mitigated by a previous microcode update for a similar previous issue. The security researchers are working on determining that too.

What will you do?

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by pif »

impendingchange wrote: post #646
pif wrote: post #588

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_cold#Causes The common cold is an infection of the upper respiratory tract which can be caused by many different viruses. The most commonly implicated is a rhinovirus (30–80%), a type of picornavirus with 99 known serotypes. Other commonly implicated viruses include human coronaviruses (≈ 15%), influenza viruses (10–15%), adenoviruses (5%), human respiratory syncytial virus (RSV),…

Wiki's do not show HISTORICAL information. The definition of the Coronavirus in the AMA medical Encyclopedia textbook. https://www.bitchute.com/video/UvuXzdVwj3ed/ Proved right again.

Wiki shows what we mean for coronavirus now, at the moment we are having this discussion. That the world had maybe a different connotations 40 years ago is not relevant at all.

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by throwawaylinux »

danaris wrote: post #686
throwawaylinux wrote: post #676

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Politicians have had time to start improving healthcare systems. Corporations that currently pay no taxes could help to fund this stuff. Billions of dollars of war industry purchases could have been slightly delayed. Billionaires could have chipped in a bit more, and we could have started ratcheting up capacities and capabilities of hospitals and healthcare systems. But no it seems that's all teetering on the brink o…

I'm sorry, what ? "The ruling class has proven that they don't actually care about anyone else"—yes, that's a reasonable message to take away from the past year and a half... "...So we should stop abiding by all the good medical advice and just party" how the hell do you come to that conclusion? The reasonable conclusion to come to from your first two paragraphs is something along the lines of "So we should protest t…

I'm not sure what it is exactly you are unclear on, but that is certainly not what I am saying. I'm saying what I wrote no more and no less. If you want to reduce it to a quip it would be the exact opposite, we should get out and live.

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by xlii »

uniqueuid wrote: post #612
xlii wrote: post #575

Does anyone actually have source to that? Yesterday we've seen WHO's update about Omicron which was basically "it looks like something we need to investigate, we don't know a lot yet" Source: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29373066 Today there's anonymous WHO representative (no mention in article who exactly and when gave the statement) that there's global risk on Reuters and there are dozens of re-publications…

Well, it's been a Variant of Concern (VOC) for some days, which was a sign that it's being considered a significant risk.

It's definitely VOC, not the first one we've seen even if it does indeed seem vastly different [1].

Article includes, however, following quote:

  "Omicron has an unprecedented number of spike mutations, some of which are concerning for their potential impact on the trajectory of the pandemic," the WHO said.
  "The overall global risk ...is assessed as very high."
I find "Global risk assessed as very high" statement as both very strong and emotional. It is already replicated globally in various other news sources. I checked WHO's newsroom [2] but haven't seen new press events nor news statement. Yesterday's WHO's update [3] doesn't say anything about general risk and word "high" isn't even used.

Today Dr Tedros highlighted that we still don't know a lot during World Health Assembly opening speech [4]:

  We don’t yet know whether Omicron is associated with more transmission, more severe disease, more risk of reinfections, or more risk of evading vaccines. Scientists at WHO and around the world are working urgently to answer these questions.
Reuters post itself do name 2 other sources for other quotes directly but this specific one is left as an "WHO" which makes it hard to verify. It is plausible that Reuters' journalist got some internal source on that matter or that WHO's news room was not updated after giving the statement, yet I'd rather have the WHO's official statement (i.e. on their news room website) for such circumstances.

[1]: https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/covid-19/variants-concern

[2]: https://www.who.int/news-room

[3]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29373066

[4]: https://www.who.int/director-general/speeches/detail/who-dir...

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by chimprich »

mathverse wrote: post #638
Dumblydorr wrote: post #625

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How was the government supposed to convince anti-vaxxers to do what they believe contains micro chips or what they believe is worse than the virus itself? This isn't on the government, this is on anti-vaxxers for swallowing garbage information, hook line and sinker. And you didn't lose 2 years of your life. You're alive, you didn't die due to the pandemic, did you? That's much less than can be said for 5 million othe…

>How was the government supposed to convince anti-vaxxers to do what they believe contains micro chips or what they believe is worse than the virus itself? This isn't on the government, this is on anti-vaxxers for swallowing garbage information, hook line and sinker. This is solely on the government. It's immoral to keep vaccinated people in uncertainty and include them in any sort of lockdowns. >And you didn't lose…

Threats don't disappear just because you feel the solution is inconvenient to you.

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by danaris »

throwawaylinux wrote: post #693
danaris wrote: post #686

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry, what ? "The ruling class has proven that they don't actually care about anyone else"—yes, that's a reasonable message to take away from the past year and a half... "...So we should stop abiding by all the good medical advice and just party" how the hell do you come to that conclusion? The reasonable conclusion to come to from your first two paragraphs is something along the lines of "So we should protest t…

I'm not sure what it is exactly you are unclear on, but that is certainly not what I am saying. I'm saying what I wrote no more and no less. If you want to reduce it to a quip it would be the exact opposite, we should get out and live.

"Getting out", as in going outside unmasked, abandoning precautions, if done en masse, will kill many, many people.

To believe otherwise is, as someone else further down said to another person who, like you, wants to just pretend this is all over, magical thinking.

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by CodeGlitch »

Toine wrote: post #669

This whole thing will never end, will it ? Should we be prepared to live with masks, mandatory vaccination, QR codes and worse for the rest of our lives ?

I don't think so. I think what we need to do is cast the net wider with future vaccines. Imagine a universal-viral vaccine - giving you strong immunity against all kinds of viruses and any future mutations.

Of course such a thing hasn't been invented yet (AFAIK).

I'm sure people under the threat of smallpox felt just like you.

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by irthomasthomas »

jl6 wrote: post #691

Imagine a new CPU CVE is announced. It has the potential to corrupt customer data, but the likelihood and severity of the corruption hasn’t been established yet (it could be anything from flipping ECC-correctable bits through to total system compromise). The flaw is exploitable over the network, and affects potentially all CPUs. The only way to avoid any risk of compromise is to disconnect your servers from the netwo…

If you where talking about medicine, then the guiding principal primum non nocere would dictate that you do nothing. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primum_non_nocere

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by throwawaylinux »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #688
throwawaylinux wrote: post #676

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Politicians have had time to start improving healthcare systems. Corporations that currently pay no taxes could help to fund this stuff. Billions of dollars of war industry purchases could have been slightly delayed. Billionaires could have chipped in a bit more, and we could have started ratcheting up capacities and capabilities of hospitals and healthcare systems. But no it seems that's all teetering on the brink o…

I don't understand how owning yourself fixes/changes anything.

That's no problem people who are petrified and happy to be owned by others may continue locking themselves inside their homes. I'm not asking let alone demanding that everybody or anybody else do this, it's just a possible alternative I suggested.

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by kaiwen1 »

harry8 wrote: post #318
xg15 wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely true, but not the whole story unfortunately. While many African countries need more vaccines, South Africa was in the process of throttling shipments because less and less people were getting vaccinated. So the other big challenge is raising acceptance of the vaccines and fighting denialism.

Talking about vaccine hesitancy in Africa must be accompanied by why there's a certain amount of justification of it and it can be viewed as entirely rational, if also wholly undesirable. Included in that must be the USA's role in creating that problem. A couple of examples quickly turned up with a search engine of which there seem to be far, far too many. I can recall a few not here being reported over the past deca…

This argument is refuted by 1) no widespread evidence of Africans themselves making such claims about their reluctance to vaccinate; 2) widespread evidence of Africans making the same conspiracy claims as those being made in other countries not sharing Africa's history; and 3) widespread evidence that the claims of both Africans and non-Africans originate from the same sources of disinformation on social media.
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