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Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by nojito »

impendingchange wrote: post #658
namanaggarwal wrote: post #578

For those commenting that it's just common cold and about herd immunity, I think we should not miss out on overload on our medical system. This is what happened in India, due to high number of cases (even if mild) the medical infrastructure completely crashed under the load and lead to far more deaths than just a flu could have caused. Wear mask and stay indoors if possible

But it is the common cold: https://www.bitchute.com/video/UvuXzdVwj3ed/ Get lots of Vitamin D from sunlight and be sure to take your Vitamin C. Breathe lots of fresh, unfiltered air. Keep the curve low.

The common cold doesn't flood ICUs and pushed them to 125% capacity.

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by darrenf »

impendingchange wrote: post #643
bigbillheck wrote: post #583

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No it wasn't? The known coronaviruses in the 1980s were four of the ones that cause the cold, but virology hasn't stood still since.

The definition of the Coronavirus in the AMA medical Encyclopedia textbook. https://www.bitchute.com/video/UvuXzdVwj3ed/ Proved right again.

https://fullfact.org/online/coronavirus-textbook-1989-common...

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by derbOac »

shlant wrote: post #580
OneTimePetes wrote: post #568

Do not buy time by shutting down travel and use failed watch/wait approach again - also WHO.

from what I understand, based on current evidence, travel restrictions will not do much at this point: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/1...

I'm a little confused by that article, to be honest. The Science paper they link seems to confirm that travel restrictions can have effect. Eg, from the abstract: " The travel quarantine of Wuhan delayed the overall epidemic progression by only 3 to 5 days in mainland China but had a more marked effect on the international scale, where case importations were reduced by nearly 80% until mid-February."

My impression is that travel restrictions aren't a panacea, but can reduce or delay spread. (Whether or not they're appropriate with Omicron in particular seems to be a slightly different issue).

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Post by [deleted] »

mathverse wrote: post #660
junon wrote: post #648

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I'm inconvenienced and no longer care if others die because of it!"

"I am not arguing in good faith nor do I have an ounce of empathy for someone that have not seen family and loved ones for more than 2 years".

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Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by nojito »

MontyCarloHall wrote: post #640
selfhoster11 wrote: post #595

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Common flu doesn't leave people with long-term reduction in cognitive and/or physical ability.

Severe cases of the flu can certainly cause chronic issues, as can severe cases of COVID. I am not aware of any compelling evidence that minor cases of COVID cause severe long-term symptoms at any substantial frequency. Assuming vaccine efficacy remains at a level where severe COVID cases are extremely rare amongst vaccinated individuals, I see no reason to worry.

You'll likely get data about it in the coming months/years. There is one looking into loss of taste/smell for "mild" cases for example.

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Post by throwawaylinux »

namanaggarwal wrote: post #578

For those commenting that it's just common cold and about herd immunity, I think we should not miss out on overload on our medical system. This is what happened in India, due to high number of cases (even if mild) the medical infrastructure completely crashed under the load and lead to far more deaths than just a flu could have caused. Wear mask and stay indoors if possible

Politicians have had time to start improving healthcare systems. Corporations that currently pay no taxes could help to fund this stuff. Billions of dollars of war industry purchases could have been slightly delayed. Billionaires could have chipped in a bit more, and we could have started ratcheting up capacities and capabilities of hospitals and healthcare systems. But no it seems that's all teetering on the brink of collapse for some astounding reason.

So it's become quite clear to me that we are not, in fact, "all in this together". The situation is that the ruling class are in it for themselves, and they are demanding everybody else lose their jobs and businesses and we comply and mask up and shut ourselves in, so that they all may carry on as usual and refuse to invest our own money in our healthcare systems.

Given what we know about this situation now, I think perhaps a better approach might be to instead not comply with these demands. Ridicule and hound and vote out anybody who insists that after two years of complying we have to continue to shut ourselves away because the healthcare systems they have not adequately invested in are still on the brink of collapse.

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by defensem3ch »

scoopdewoop wrote: post #654

The media and government can't be trusted with germ theory. The whole idea that we have control over the virus and that our actions are tantamount to killing people with it or not is ludicrous. The virus is going to spread, and its going to kill people. People aren't killing each other. We will all catch covid. The "treatment" has been so much worse than the disease. 5 million died due to covid, but hundreds of milli…

hundreds of millions of people will die from the... economy? what? no, i think you got this backwards. nobody is being choked by the invisible hand of the market.

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by bserge »

junon wrote: post #648
mathverse wrote: post #605

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am sorry but no. I have already lost 2 years of my life just following and obeying the orders. Enough is enough. This is not on me to solve. The government had enough time to convince everyone to vaccinate or prepare the healthcare sector for influx of cases of unvaccinated.

"I'm inconvenienced and no longer care if others die because of it!"

Why do they have to die?

It's possible to live without going into another lockdown and completely fucking up the lives of the poorest.

Which will bite everyone in the ass later.

Millions of unhappy people brews some disaster or other.

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by Bud »

marexv wrote: post #655

It is not going to stop... new variants, booster shots, masks, lock downs, tests for everyone everyday. Get over it. It's like airport security, once setup, the system is not going away and soon nobody will remember how life used to look like before all of it happened.

It actually differs from airport security in one crucial way: vaccination actually works, and it will continue to work. Airport security measures, at least the ones commonly discussed, the ones that spring up after 9/11, have zero effect these days, since the threats they were supposedly intended to combat were solved the moment cockpit doors were required to remain locked at all times.

Vaccines work, boosters work, masks work, lockdowns work, and testing works. And the combination of these measures works. They operate in tandem. I am not advocating keeping all of these measures forever—merely noting that they are not, in fact, really that comparable to airport security.

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