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Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by pif »

noarchy wrote: post #574

This variant is already being found on nearly every continent as I type this. We still don’t seem to know if this variant is more or less contagious or more or less deadly. It’s too late to stop it’s spread. So then what? Just keep pushing the worldwide vaccination campaign? I don’t see what else can be done that wouldn’t simply be kicking the can down the road more.

> ... that wouldn’t simply be kicking the can down the road more.

Kicking the can down the road is a good thing. It buys us more time to look for a more impactful solution.

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by bigbillheck »

impendingchange wrote: post #571
throw8932894 wrote: post #570

Or maybe SARS‑CoV‑2 just become common flu. There will be herd immunity and risk will become low.

Coronavirus in the '80s was defined as the common cold. Edit: Prove me wrong.

No it wasn't?

The known coronaviruses in the 1980s were four of the ones that cause the cold, but virology hasn't stood still since.

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by shlant »

impendingchange wrote: post #571
throw8932894 wrote: post #570

Or maybe SARS‑CoV‑2 just become common flu. There will be herd immunity and risk will become low.

Coronavirus in the '80s was defined as the common cold. Edit: Prove me wrong.

prove you wrong about what? I don't even know what point you are trying to make

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by kwertyoowiyop »

impendingchange wrote: post #571
throw8932894 wrote: post #570

Or maybe SARS‑CoV‑2 just become common flu. There will be herd immunity and risk will become low.

Coronavirus in the '80s was defined as the common cold. Edit: Prove me wrong.

We don’t have to prove you wrong. You’re the one making the statement, so you have to prove you’re right.

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by incrudible »

namanaggarwal wrote: post #578

For those commenting that it's just common cold and about herd immunity, I think we should not miss out on overload on our medical system. This is what happened in India, due to high number of cases (even if mild) the medical infrastructure completely crashed under the load and lead to far more deaths than just a flu could have caused. Wear mask and stay indoors if possible

> Wear mask and stay indoors if possible

For all we know about transmission, you should stay outdoors, if possible. If this isn't possible, maximize ventilation. Limit contacts in general. Masks have a very modest impact on transmission.

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by Pxtl »

OneTimePetes wrote: post #568

Do not buy time by shutting down travel and use failed watch/wait approach again - also WHO.

Because it has already spread world-wide in all likelihood, we just haven't noticed yet. Targeted travel bans are worthless and very few nations are willing to close borders altogether.

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by pif »

impendingchange wrote: post #571
throw8932894 wrote: post #570

Or maybe SARS‑CoV‑2 just become common flu. There will be herd immunity and risk will become low.

Coronavirus in the '80s was defined as the common cold. Edit: Prove me wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_cold#Causes

The common cold is an infection of the upper respiratory tract which can be caused by many different viruses. The most commonly implicated is a rhinovirus (30–80%), a type of picornavirus with 99 known serotypes. Other commonly implicated viruses include human coronaviruses (≈ 15%), influenza viruses (10–15%), adenoviruses (5%), human respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), enteroviruses other than rhinoviruses, human parainfluenza viruses, and human metapneumovirus.[36] Frequently more than one virus is present. In total, more than 200 viral types are associated with colds.

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by MontyCarloHall »

rayxc wrote: post #582

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Weird they don’t mention that South Africa had so much of a vaccine surplus they asked other countries to stop sending vaccine [0]. Their low vaccination rate is due to hesitancy amongst the population, not access to doses.

[0] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-24/s-africa-...

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by revolvingocelot »

impendingchange wrote: post #571
throw8932894 wrote: post #570

Or maybe SARS‑CoV‑2 just become common flu. There will be herd immunity and risk will become low.

Coronavirus in the '80s was defined as the common cold. Edit: Prove me wrong.

>Edit: Prove me wrong.

That's not how the burden of proof works, Mr Crowder. Go home.

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