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Fleet, a Lightweight IDE from JetBrains

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Re: Fleet, a Lightweight IDE from JetBrains

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post #71

Although I only speak English I greatly appreciate the fact their blog is available in so many other languages. Are their IDEs interfaces available in multiple languages too?

Sheesh. Please no. Note that i do speak several languages and my native language isnt English. Still, please dont complicate my programming with translations.

I'm in your same boat, English as a second language and I dislike having to use my native tongue for dev-related concepts, it just doesn't work.

Re: Fleet, a Lightweight IDE from JetBrains

#123

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Sheesh. Please no. Note that i do speak several languages and my native language isnt English. Still, please dont complicate my programming with translations.

IDE language isn't tied to the language used in your codebase

Parent has a point, there are so many things that don't even make sense in other languages, for example in my native language we don't have a word that corresponds to "Refactor", any possible translation would be weird and hard to understand, that's why I've never used an IDE in a language other than English.

It's got nothing to do with "the language used in your codebase", whatever you mean by that (programming language? natural language used in strings?)

Re: Fleet, a Lightweight IDE from JetBrains

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Why not use intellij ultimate? You can easily add all the language plugins (mod clion based ones).

Why? Because I'm a second class citizen in a java IDE. No thanks. The marketing is also quite clear on the target audience https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/features/

Not really, tbh. IntelliJ Ultimate + the Ruby extension is RubyMine with a different name. Likewise with Go and JS, and I'm sure it's the same for php etc. but I can't speak for those. I've used this setup when I was testing out a bunch of languages for fun.

Re: Fleet, a Lightweight IDE from JetBrains

#126
post #84

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> People moved from IntelliJ to VSC because it was faster, simpler and language-agnostic, instead JetBrains blamed users for not using advanced features like CPU profiling which most people don't use daily. They are jumping on simple-editor train now. Better late than never From my experience, most people who nowadays start programming, flock to vscode because it's free, used in most tutorials and then they simply do…

VSCode has debugging built in and can connect to various runtimes. Not that I ever use that - I prefer sticking with the language native tools, and I rarely require anything beyond inspecting runtime values and simple benchmarking. Maybe this comes from the perspective of Java, where you need an IDE to do proper debugging, building/starting an application requires a gazillion command line arguments, and you have laye…

Recently CLion got decent Rust debugging. While I love rust-analyser and its integration with VSCode, the debugger in CLion is worth its weight in gold (like a ton or so).

Would I prefer a native IDE for Rust? Maybe one that doesn't require 4GiB of Ram to operate? Yes.

But bar for IDEs today is very high.

Re: Fleet, a Lightweight IDE from JetBrains

#127

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>If they make it free, they could get a big chunk of the market, especially if they actually provide it with IntelliJ level of autocomplete, refactorings, multicursor support etc. If they did that, then why would anyone buy IntelliJ? I understand why Microsoft came out with VSCode. They didn't have anything to offer for developers who weren't already bought into the Windows/.Net stack. VSCode was an effort to reach o…

I think polyglot IDEs like VSCode serve a different niche to PyCharm, CLion etc. In a professional context, you usually end up doing 80% of your coding in one language, so it only makes sense to use an editor that semantically understands the language to amplify your coding. One common use case where I resort to IntelliJ tools is refactoring methods/classes/variables, since it feels so much safer. My personal take is…

Fleet will likely become part of the "All Products Pack" which at this point costs $149 annually pre-tax (personal license), with special add-on integrations for several targeted cloud environments being rental add-ons.

The personal license All-Products-Pack is great. I'm prevented by the license from ever expensing it but I spend every day immersed in PyCharm, IntelliJ IDEA, DataGrip, and soon GoLand. I can open as many simultaneous copies as I need on personal and work computers, Windows, macOS, and Linux.

Re: Fleet, a Lightweight IDE from JetBrains

#128
post #64

To me it sounds like this is used to test a rewrite of all their IDEs because it is written from scratch. I can imagine if this becomes a succes they will update all their IDEs or use Fleet as the new platform.

> I can imagine if this becomes a succes they will update all their IDEs or use Fleet as the new platform.

Fleet may very well be the main focus for IntelliJ in the future. It is highly moduralized [0], which makes it seem like they're going after github.dev, stackblitz.com, replit.com and not just VSCode.

[0] https://www.jetbrains.com/help/fleet/1.0/architecture-overvi...

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