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Fleet, a Lightweight IDE from JetBrains

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Re: Fleet, a Lightweight IDE from JetBrains

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I would love to see a version of this which can run on an iPad. Combined with the Magic Keyboard and it would make a nice code environment in conjunction with a server, or a cloud instance.

I marvel at those of you who can code on an iPad. How are your eyes so good? I have a 32" monitor running at like 120% zoom and can still barely read the code. Curse my ancient eyes!

Re: Fleet, a Lightweight IDE from JetBrains

#113
post #71

Although I only speak English I greatly appreciate the fact their blog is available in so many other languages. Are their IDEs interfaces available in multiple languages too?

Sheesh. Please no.

Note that i do speak several languages and my native language isnt English. Still, please dont complicate my programming with translations.

Re: Fleet, a Lightweight IDE from JetBrains

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> And why does it matter that it's not open source? I honestly find this question really weird. Do we really have to explain such basic things nowadays? It may not be important to you, it is extremely important to me, and (apparently) xyproto.

And that's why you're not using Windows, Mac, Android, or iOS, but only Linux, correct? Mostly people want open source but they'll happily abandon it for convenience. That's how Gmail won over Dovecot.

That's exactly why, free/open source enthusiasts are just the minority type to prefer freedom or privacy over convenience.

Re: Fleet, a Lightweight IDE from JetBrains

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Why not use intellij ultimate? You can easily add all the language plugins (mod clion based ones).

Why? Because I'm a second class citizen in a java IDE. No thanks. The marketing is also quite clear on the target audience https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/features/

Be that as it may, I've used Webstorm and Intellij Ultimate with JS plugins and the experience was pretty much identical.

Re: Fleet, a Lightweight IDE from JetBrains

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> For C#, Visual Studio is pretty good these day We’re not talking about visual studio. We’re talking about vscode. You wanted to know why someone would use it over vscode: the answer is that vscode has poor support for some languages. Whether you personally prefer the vscode tooling in say rust, to the debugger in clion is your personal choice; but you are misrepresenting the situation if you say the latter, with di…

>You’ve already decided that without trying it. What can I say? You’re right. If it’s shit, there no reason you would use it over vscode. Microsoft had a clear incentive to make VSCode not shit: Azure, Visual Studio Online, and, later, Github. But what is JetBrains' incentive to make Fleet good?

How should I know wtf their product plan is?

Maybe they want to transition people from “pays x per month” for an IDE license to “pays per hour of usage” on Spaces as a payment model because it’s more granular which means more reliable billing? (Same as yearly -> monthly they did previously?

Maybe they have analytics that shows year-on-year decline in desktop IDE usage vs. hosted IDE usage and they want to be part of that market?

Maybe they want to gather a big base of free-tier users that they can up sell hosted plans to?

Why do you think they’re doing it? ‘Cause they’re a bunch of clueless idiots?

Come on, jetbrains is many things, and not all of them good, but clueless idiots they are not.

Fleet may end up being a failure because it is poorly executed, because it conflicts with the goals of other teams, or for product reasons (eg. turns out it’s $30/month).

…but it’s not a forgone conclusion at this point. Come on dude, give it the benefit of the doubt ffs.

Why would you cling to vscode and never try anything else, and critique anyone for even trying to make something similar, or maybe better?

That’s weird.

Re: Fleet, a Lightweight IDE from JetBrains

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post #71

Although I only speak English I greatly appreciate the fact their blog is available in so many other languages. Are their IDEs interfaces available in multiple languages too?

Sheesh. Please no. Note that i do speak several languages and my native language isnt English. Still, please dont complicate my programming with translations.

IDE language isn't tied to the language used in your codebase

Re: Fleet, a Lightweight IDE from JetBrains

#119
post #84

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> People moved from IntelliJ to VSC because it was faster, simpler and language-agnostic, instead JetBrains blamed users for not using advanced features like CPU profiling which most people don't use daily. They are jumping on simple-editor train now. Better late than never From my experience, most people who nowadays start programming, flock to vscode because it's free, used in most tutorials and then they simply do…

Vscode is more than suitable for big projects, Its not just for hello world projects. VSCode is best tool for TypeScript/JavaScript/Dart. For Java/C# it probably is not.

You should really try out JetBrains' TS/JS features. It's great, as good as anything VSC can give you, and if you're used to their IDEs (say, for Ruby, which is nowhere near as good on VSC) you're better off using the JB IDE.

Re: Fleet, a Lightweight IDE from JetBrains

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post #84
post #74

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Over year ago JetBrains released a post showing they don't understand why VSCode eats their market: > Still, we don’t deny the information could be a bit skewed – even with the weighting we give to our survey results – given that this is from the JetBrains State of Developer Ecosystem survey, and one of JetBrains main products is IntelliJ IDEA. However, that is not to say that this is not totally unreasonable, as if…

> People moved from IntelliJ to VSC because it was faster, simpler and language-agnostic, instead JetBrains blamed users for not using advanced features like CPU profiling which most people don't use daily. They are jumping on simple-editor train now. Better late than never From my experience, most people who nowadays start programming, flock to vscode because it's free, used in most tutorials and then they simply do…

I moved to VSC because I need one editor, one keyboard shortcuts to learn for 4 programming languages I use daily. I use it on quite big projects, openapi-generator and keycloak and it's fine, I like it, but my teammates tell me I'm a weirdo for using it.
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