Australia to introduce new laws to force media platforms to unmask online trolls

Post by BeFlatXIII » Sun, Nov 28, 2021, 5:42 PM UTC

StanislavPetrov wrote: post #129

ksec wrote: post #104

This is sort of off topic. >users who post defamatory comments Wouldn't that be more like Twitter Mob. Does the word "Troll" means something different in Australia, or is it the headline written by Reuter using the word "Troll" differently to what I understand, or does "Troll" means something differently in the US given Reuter is an US media. Just what is "Trolls"?

If you read the article you'll see the "standard" used to remove speech is much, much broader than "defamatory comments". >>The new legislation will introduce a complaints mechanism, so that if somebody thinks they are being defamed, bullied or attacked on social media, they will be able to require the platform to take the material down. If one merely "thinks" they are being bullied or attacked, the law will require…

Post by lazyeye » Sun, Nov 28, 2021, 6:35 PM UTC

ggm wrote: post #108

lazyeye wrote: post #85

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For people who arent familiar with Oz politics I'II fill in the blanks a bit to compensate for the selective partisan filter here. France was pissed of with Australia because they took a perfectly legal exit on a contract for submarines. This kind of staged contract is normal for large military tenders as once committed you are locked into an effective monopoly. So with each stage there is typically an exit path to k…

Australian exports to the European union will suffer. There will be no nuclear subs here for decades, if ever. We'll be given second hand dross before the new subs arrives., and it bears mentioning the French subs were nuclear, and retrofitted with diesel to meet this contract. The French subs need recharging. The US and UK offer are single charge for life. It's a five eyes con. We pissed off the Japanese to take the…

Post by lazyeye » Sun, Nov 28, 2021, 6:50 PM UTC

stephen_g wrote: post #115

lazyeye wrote: post #31

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A very partisan take I think.

I think few in Australia would disagree that Scott Morrison is a liar. That was the first thing I really noticed about him even before he was PM, it's nice that the French contract is finally bringing it to the fore. It's insane. The Crikey guys came to the same conclusion I had - he doesn't just use big, strategic lies for political advantage - he lies about the small things when it's not even necessary, and they co…

Post by devtul » Sun, Nov 28, 2021, 7:26 PM UTC

etherael wrote: post #54

qwerty456127 wrote: post #48

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Exactly. I used yo be a total Internet freedom proponent and that's what I want for myself but now as everybody (of whom the majority is mentally unprepared) is on Facebook I admit it makes no sense - Internet kindergartens have to be there for the people who need them (and most of these people just naturally go to places like Facebook and Instagram).

The problem with this is that the mass of clueless kindergarten attendants are fed a steady diet of complete nonsense by curated and cultivated media outlets pushing very specific self serving narratives, which these obedient clueless drones in massive hordes then go out into the world and behave politically and economically exactly as those who treated them like the wind-up toy soldiers they actually are intended. A…

Post by kingcharles » Sun, Nov 28, 2021, 8:03 PM UTC

bmarquez wrote: post #58

kitsunesoba wrote: post #52

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The modern definition of troll seems to be more closely related to one of the personalities that got its start at a particular notorious imageboard, who constantly posts flamebait and thrives off of pushing the limits of how much they can upset others. I haven’t seen the original more innocuous definition used in a long time.

Trolling existed on Usenet long before 4chan. https://gizmodo.com/the-first-internet-troll-1652485292