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Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern

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Re: Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern

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My current take (not a virologist, doctor): At this point, if you are not immunocompromised and you have the first vaccination and a booster. You should be able to easily recover regardless of the mutation(s). The virus would need to completely diverge from SARS-CoV-2 in order to fully defeat the countermeasures of the current vaccinations.

Narrowness of immune response: >The mRNA and viral vector vaccines induced ONLY spike protein antibodies in the inoculated test subjects >In comparison, whole inactivated virus and natural infection induce antibodies to many parts of the virus Original antigenic sin: >Subjects injected with the old formulations have locked their immune response to only a few antibodies >Any new formulation of the injection will ampli…

There is zero evidence at all for any antibody-dependent enhancement with the COVID vaccines so far.

The mRNA vaccines also induce the cell-mediated immunity, unlike e.g. subunit vaccines that only consists of a protein. The cell-based response is fundamentally different and not based on the 3D structure of the virus protein like the antibody response. So mutation that would evade the antibody response would not automatically evade the cell-based response as well.

The spike protein is also the most important protein of the virus. And antibodies are mostly useful against surface components of the virus, not so much against stuff that's on the inside. The spike protein performs a critical function, to evade the antibody response it has to do both, change enough to be unrecognizable while still being able to infect cells with a similar efficiency. That's not an easy thing to do.

Re: Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern

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post #57

My current take (not a virologist, doctor): At this point, if you are not immunocompromised and you have the first vaccination and a booster. You should be able to easily recover regardless of the mutation(s). The virus would need to completely diverge from SARS-CoV-2 in order to fully defeat the countermeasures of the current vaccinations.

Narrowness of immune response: >The mRNA and viral vector vaccines induced ONLY spike protein antibodies in the inoculated test subjects >In comparison, whole inactivated virus and natural infection induce antibodies to many parts of the virus Original antigenic sin: >Subjects injected with the old formulations have locked their immune response to only a few antibodies >Any new formulation of the injection will ampli…

Curious edit history. This pile of garbage originally used "vaxtard", "sin", and "purebloods". You really shouldn't take anything seriously from a source that uses those trigger phrases.

Re: Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern

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Twitter thread from a vaccine developer: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1464222680731820043.html A lot of speculation still, but it's not all bad so far.

>vaccine developer >Chair of ...Maryland's Newest Anthropomorphic Convention! Not sure how I feel about this. Are many vaccine developers also furries?

There's an expose available on the pseudononymous author.[1] According to that, she is a Moderna employee.

[1] https://www.inputmag.com/features/furry-scientist-vaccines-c...

Re: Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern

#145

I gotta say, COVID releases new features faster than a lot of teams do.

Well when you pump and dump things like Delta you got to keep pumping/dumping. I mean - what else is going to get everyone cattle herded into the concentration camps. Australia is the country with balls to arrest its own citizens for the crime of testing positive and stuffing them into concentration camps.

Only fascists wear masks.

Only fascists are vaxxers.

Only fascists inflict violence on people with 'vaccines' that have killed hundreds of thousands of people from heart attacks.

GET FUCKED VAXXERS! I HOPE YOU ALL FUCKING DIE!

Re: Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern

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post #57

My current take (not a virologist, doctor): At this point, if you are not immunocompromised and you have the first vaccination and a booster. You should be able to easily recover regardless of the mutation(s). The virus would need to completely diverge from SARS-CoV-2 in order to fully defeat the countermeasures of the current vaccinations.

Seems like a bad take since we already know the vaccine immunity is reduced with time.

Re: Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The mainstream vaccine narrative has needed additional supporting evidence to state with confidence that vaccinations after previous infection should be a requirement… it’s only natural a new variant should occur with the exact fit needed.

You realise this is mostly the case in the US? In the EU - previous infection and recovery gives you a COVID Pass - some countries are doing a single shot after infection at most to count you as vaccinated (Spain I believe does this) which is consistent with the data we have It’s mostly the US that has an insane vacine policy.

We'll see what happens with the large employer mandate, but as of now, I've been asked to show proof of vaccination 0 times in the US, while living a similar life to before the pandemic.

(I didn't spend much time in restaurants prior, I've cut that back, but then they aren't checking anyway)

Re: Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern

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post #112

Omicron? Was not it Nu like few hours ago? I like the longer name better. Our ministry of finance has already made a typo in a Facebook post calling it Mu (like the sound cows make).

They skipped nu because it sounds too much like mu, and they skipped xi because it sounds like Winnie-the-Poo.

Re: Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern

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post #107
post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Will people ever get over sensationalism and learn to live it? You see, that's the crux of the matter: Not everyone can live with it. Literally. So far, it killed more than 5 million people globally. There is also the issue with possibly lasting brain damage (even occuring in cases that weren't severe enough for hospitalization) and life-wrecking long covid. Compassionate people have a problem ignoring all that.

Compassionate people should have a problem with being enslaved, mentally and physically, by a disease that, according to your stats has killed 0.06% of the world population - albeit, it's debatable how many people died as a direct result of it.

I know 5 people personally that have died of this virus, forgive me if I take offense at your hand waving of it
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