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Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern

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Re: Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern

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post #57

My current take (not a virologist, doctor): At this point, if you are not immunocompromised and you have the first vaccination and a booster. You should be able to easily recover regardless of the mutation(s). The virus would need to completely diverge from SARS-CoV-2 in order to fully defeat the countermeasures of the current vaccinations.

This does have quite a few mutations, including several that are pretty rare. https://github.com/cov-lineages/pango-designation/issues/343

Re: Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern

#72
post #61

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Any reasoning/source or this is just what you wish for / want to believe?

Not OP but I remember reading that with the way the vaccine works, as long as it’s classified as a variant you should be covered. If you’re not covered anymore (assuming the full vaccination is not outdated) that means it’s most likely a new virus rather than a new variant. I can’t find a proper link to quote tough, so you can assume this is totally wrong. Nevertheless, the logic behind it makes sense (to me at least…

Quick research tells me that Biontech does need two weeks to check if the vaccine works against the new variant [1], so clearly it does NOT need to be a new virus for the vaccine to become useless.

[1] https://www.boston25news.com/news/trending/biontech-will-kno...

Re: Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern

#73
post #62

Will people ever get over sensationalism and learn to live with it? It will continue to mutate and spread for years to come. Putting life on pause should've never been an option because of the toxic precedent it created.

Imagine there was a fire near where you live, constantly spreading and endangering lives in your community. Would you say people can just "learn to live it"?

Re: Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern

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post #59
post #57

My current take (not a virologist, doctor): At this point, if you are not immunocompromised and you have the first vaccination and a booster. You should be able to easily recover regardless of the mutation(s). The virus would need to completely diverge from SARS-CoV-2 in order to fully defeat the countermeasures of the current vaccinations.

Strikes me as unnecessarily early to make such a claim.

Testing of vaccines against this new variant is already starting.[1] First results in 2 weeks.

Pfizer says that if they have to generate a new vaccine for this variant, it will take about 100 days.[2] That's the great thing about this mRNA vaccine technology - given the gene sequence of a virus, a vaccine can be designed. The original Moderna vaccine was designed in two days.

[1] https://www.newsweek.com/omicron-variant-prompts-concerns-ab...

[2] https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/world/pfizer-release-statemen...

Re: Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern

#77

still some ways to reach omega (the larger sibling of omicron)

o micron literally means "small o" and o mega literally means "big o", but those computer scientists, when they use "big O notation" they write it with an O. Omega is sad :(

Re: Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern

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The mainstream vaccine narrative has needed additional supporting evidence to state with confidence that vaccinations after previous infection should be a requirement… it’s only natural a new variant should occur with the exact fit needed.

You realise this is mostly the case in the US? In the EU - previous infection and recovery gives you a COVID Pass - some countries are doing a single shot after infection at most to count you as vaccinated (Spain I believe does this) which is consistent with the data we have It’s mostly the US that has an insane vacine policy.

> In the EU - previous infection and recovery gives you a COVID Pass

Is that consistent? I had heard it's based on antibody test - you get a limited time pass.

Re: Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern

#80
post #49

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Nu means naked in Portuguese (and Spanish I think?) Maybe they wanted to avoid all the lazy puns. A pretty significant part of the world speaks either of those two languages.

"Nu" means nude in Portuguese, French and Catalan, but that's the masculine form, whereas the noun variant is feminine, therefore "nu variant" would never be mistaken for "nude variant". But even if it could be misinterpreted, I don't think anybody would care.

Variant is masculine in French. Well, the feminine form “variante” exists as well, but is not used in this context.

Also, both the masculine and feminine forms, “nu” and “nue”, are pronounced exactly the same. “Le variant nu” in French would always be ambiguous.

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