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What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

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It is a radically nationalist pro-China forum to the point where they regularly push anti-US conspiracy theories and regular usage of words like "Amerikkka".

>It is a radically nationalist pro-China forum to the point where they regularly push anti-US conspiracy theories and regular usage of words like "Amerikkka". The person you're replying to is an occasional poster to that subreddit, who surely knows this already

Which means you're an active lurker there and saw his name often?

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How do you know 98% Chinese people are happy if there is no credible, independent study? Surely any study saying Chinese are unhappy would be censored.

Here you go, independent study by York University https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/05/05/did-pande...

This one actually made me belly laugh, thanks for that.

It's not independent, a study, or by York University, it was a ccp sponsored poll performed in China, by party members, with data collated and compiled by party members.

It's rare to see propaganda crumble to so delicate an interrogation, that's some primo stuff.

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Mind that some of those mentioned receive money from the CCP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOIrsmjRFxU

Yep, thanks.

Mind you, accused of being paid.

I recommend you to watch arguments from both sides and then decide for yourself whether the accusation is right or not.

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How is the specific content of her Weibo post relevant at all here? The issue is that the woman was kidnapped by the Chinese government because simple because she spoke out publicly, and it seems to me that the media’s reporting has been very complete in that regard. What specifically has been lacking?

I heard about her disappearance from social media for a time. Can you link information about her kidnapping please.

I am confused about your request. Are you asking for Chinese sources of her kidnapping?

Re: What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

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Here you go, independent study by York University https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/05/05/did-pande...

This one actually made me belly laugh, thanks for that. It's not independent, a study, or by York University, it was a ccp sponsored poll performed in China, by party members, with data collated and compiled by party members. It's rare to see propaganda crumble to so delicate an interrogation, that's some primo stuff.

And where do you get that it's a poll by party members?

The author even explicitly stated that the survey was anonymous. The author states that their findings are consistent with other studies.

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Or the whole thing to Taiwan. It's China after all (according to China alone).

It might be a bit warm in Taiwan for the Winter Olympics. And it's barely China alone who see it as China. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Taiwan#Climate

Most hockey is played inside arenas.

https://taiwan-scene.com/cool-ice-hockey-in-a-hot-hot-land-t...

Taiwan actually has a hockey scene, I'm sure they'd love to host.

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Every time there is a story that criticizes China's Communist Party there is a flood of troll-like comments here in Hacker News. Lot of "What about X" comments and just general trolling and uncivil behavior. As a non-Chinese I never could understand the relationship of CCP, Chinese nationals and Chinese immigrants in the US and West. To me, it seems very hyocritcal to live in the Western societies and be very pro-CCP…

HN is weird. Articles, stories, and conversations show up here before getting to content aggregators or social media, and it's ahead of the curve by hours. Focusing a/b tests here gives you a strategic edge in controlling a narrative further downstream, and can give you a sample of what arguments can close down a discussion, or exactly how to script your sock puppets so that people feel their opinion is represented within a discussion.

I'm pretty sure this happens because people in ycombinator circles use HN as a high quality content pipeline, and because of dang's impeccable curation, front page HN content gets greenlit for immediate display. If you see something on HN, it'll almost inevitably show up on Slashdot, Reddit, Facebook, and a slew of other smaller sites and forums, often unchanged from its presentation here.

HN also has the bonus that many silicon valley movers and shakers frequent the site and join the discussions. China's troll generals would be foolish not to capitalize on that.

As far as immigrants defending ccp that's usually because they have family back in China and would like to see them again some day. Their family's social standing could take a hit if they are insufficiently "patriotic," even in the US. China's got social influence inside the US, and extensive networks of casual spies that report problematic behaviors, ranging from local cultural clubs and groups to college and campus outreach organizations. It's very (darkly) sophisticated.

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The Imperial China period from 200-something BC to 1912 had pretty solid control over a fair chunk of what we think of as modern China.

One could make a similar argument and generalize about Europeans and claim European unity exists because for most of the past 2,000 years practically all states in Europe were under the influence of the Catholic church in some way or another. China's history is as complicated as any other similarly sized territory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:China_Dynasties.gif and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Chi…

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