The unbearable fussiness of the smart home

Post by moffkalast » Wed, Nov 24, 2021, 2:18 PM UTC

arcticbull wrote: post #13

h2odragon wrote: post #2

In that same time period, my "plant light" timer, a $15 mechanical item of a design unmodified since the 1970s, has worked flawlessly, requiring attention only when the clocks change or my schedule does. It has not informed Google, Amazon, or anyone else about its job or anything else in my home. It has generated no royalties nor invoked any support or ongoing maintenance costs. It has never needed a software upgrade…

> In that same time period, my "plant light" timer, a $15 mechanical item of a design unmodified since the 1970s, has worked flawlessly, requiring attention only when the clocks change or my schedule does. This could just be survivorship bias. If 99% of these plant timers broke and were sent to the scrap heap, you would still feel like they were 'built better back then' because you're only seeing the ones that made i…

Post by jaywalk » Wed, Nov 24, 2021, 2:20 PM UTC

bluGill wrote: post #48

rwmj wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "Z-wave" function would never be used in my house so it would just be adding cost. Considerable cost at that - a plain white plastic light switch is £1.99, and the "Z-wave" ones I can see on Amazon are all around £20-£40!

Are you sure? The normal switches should be the normal way. But sometimes I've realized I left a basement light on and didn't want to walk downstairs to flip the switch. There are also odd niches. I have an air compressor in a far corner of my shop (for noise reasons) with pipes running to where I need air. I want to control that without having to walk across the shop. (So far I don't have this because finding a swit…

Post by bluGill » Wed, Nov 24, 2021, 2:23 PM UTC

julianlam wrote: post #30

I once had a passing interest in smart lights and outlets. I thought the idea of controlling all of my lights with my smartphone was the neatest idea ever. I then happened upon an article that reviewed a specific smart home hub, and their trouble with the associated smart devices. In one case, his smart devices kept disconnecting, necessitating him to have to get out the ladder and crawl along a narrow crawlspace in…

Post by ghaff » Wed, Nov 24, 2021, 2:28 PM UTC

maccard wrote: post #14

vnxli wrote: post #6

This is entirely on the author. Sure these vendors make awful products and poorly maintain them - but nobody is forcing anyone to buy them or integrate them into their house. I have yet to hear, or especially see, these devices make anybody’s life easier than doing the task manually. I never think about light in my home, I flip the switch if I need it - lights seem like such a chore to my friends who have to issue co…

> I never think about light in my home, I flip the switch if I need it - lights seem like such a chore to my friends who have to issue commands to a speaker and that’s one of the few things this tech is supposed to be good at Pre-covid we used to leave the dog at home during the day (I now WFH so not an issue), but it gets dark at 3:30 here during the winter, meaning the dog is stuck sitting in the dark for 2 hours.…

Post by Karunamon » Wed, Nov 24, 2021, 2:32 PM UTC

rwmj wrote: post #11

Has to be said I don't understand "smart devices" one bit. I simply don't understand how pulling out a phone and launching an app is preferable to an ordinary light switch. In fact I would say it's in every respect worse. And I don't want something that sits in the room listening to everything I say and uploading some unknown part of that to an unknown cloud service.