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Re: Fun with Red Star OS

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Post by LogonType10 »

kenned3 wrote: post #113
typon wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I knew a South Korean prof who chose to live in North Korea (as a philanthropic act) and teach at their top university (His research was in Embedded Electronics). Conversations with him completely changed my mind on North Korea, because prior to that my only context was through American/Canadian mainstream media (read: propaganda). I still think its a dictatorial regime that needs to be abolished and the North Korean…

This. If anyone thinks North America isn't actively involved in propaganda as well, they are delusional. The amount of "anti-china" comments i come across on the internet is shocking, and I can tell the posters have never left the US, let alone been to the country of their targeted "hate". Where do these strong views come from if they haven't been there, and probably have minimal contact with people who have?

Probably comes from the fact that you can't meet North Koreans because the ones who try to leave get shot.

Re: Fun with Red Star OS

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Post by LogonType10 »

typon wrote: post #92
emteycz wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it surprising that the top 1% programmers of an entire country (many of them probably with western education) can produce quality software when put under deadly threat?

I knew a South Korean prof who chose to live in North Korea (as a philanthropic act) and teach at their top university (His research was in Embedded Electronics). Conversations with him completely changed my mind on North Korea, because prior to that my only context was through American/Canadian mainstream media (read: propaganda). I still think its a dictatorial regime that needs to be abolished and the North Korean…

When people say Hacker News doesn't have an intense bias I'll just link this comment.

Re: Fun with Red Star OS

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Post by edm0nd »

typon wrote: post #92
emteycz wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it surprising that the top 1% programmers of an entire country (many of them probably with western education) can produce quality software when put under deadly threat?

I knew a South Korean prof who chose to live in North Korea (as a philanthropic act) and teach at their top university (His research was in Embedded Electronics). Conversations with him completely changed my mind on North Korea, because prior to that my only context was through American/Canadian mainstream media (read: propaganda). I still think its a dictatorial regime that needs to be abolished and the North Korean…

Imagine being a North Korea simp like this.

Re: Fun with Red Star OS

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Post by onkoe »

laumars wrote: post #135
LogonType10 wrote: post #131

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Because code derived from GPL code is also GPL. Co-pilot (sometimes) intelligently copies and pastes GPL code.

> Because code derived from GPL code is also GPL. I’m not happy with the Co-Pilot situation either but for the sake of correctness it should it should be pointed out that your point hasn’t actually been tested in court with regards to machine learning. In fact some lawyers have suggested the GPL might not cover that particular scenario.

No one should want to test this - it's terrifying for companies and developers alike.

Re: Fun with Red Star OS

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Post by mynameisash »

jeroenhd wrote: post #34

> Spoiler, he doesn’t give a fuck about your hentai porn. These operating systems do actually contain code that add a signature belonging to your install of the machine to pictures and video files, so be wary if spreading your hentai porn in Kim's country because it can be traced back to you. That said, there's a lot of panic about fears of having it reach out across the internet and infect your entire network withou…

> If you're comfortable with running Windows 11,you're already sharing more data than the DPRK could possibly want to extract from you

Citation needed. Sure, Windows collects a lot of telemetry, but Microsoft takes great pains to ensure these data are privacy-protecting. On the other hand, if you assume an OS from an authoritarian regime is collecting info, it would seem that by definition, they want to know exactly who you are.

I'll even give Apple and Google the benefit of the doubt that they're similarly (to Microsoft) concerned about protecting PII.

Re: Fun with Red Star OS

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Post by pessimizer »

whimsicalism wrote: post #64
BuildTheRobots wrote: post #54

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The KGB used to require all typewriters to be registered, so they could identify the authors of anything they found objectionable. Being able to track who produced an image that's doing the rounds spreading "propaganda" seems like it adds a lot of value (from an authoritarian point of view, at least).

LOL yeah the US does the exact same thing. I would pay to read a newspaper that (somewhat satirically) reported on the US the way we report on our adversaries. Complete with referring to police as "security forces", including wild speculations about the backstabbing behind-the-scenes of their top politics, etc.

"Regime" and "oligarchs" are my big annoyances. If you used words and phrases like these for domestic stories consistently, they'd lose all of their propaganda value.

Hell, "propaganda" is the archetypal example. All communications with the primary purpose of advocacy were referred to as propaganda until the propaganda industry came up with the term "Public Relations."

It's a bit like the Anglo-Saxon/Latin split in English, where the Anglo-Saxon word means the cheap, commonplace version of whatever the Norman word is. English for the last century or so has had a sort of "communist register" that you're required to use about things that are officially disapproved of.

Re: Fun with Red Star OS

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Post by pessimizer »

LogonType10 wrote: post #141
kenned3 wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. If anyone thinks North America isn't actively involved in propaganda as well, they are delusional. The amount of "anti-china" comments i come across on the internet is shocking, and I can tell the posters have never left the US, let alone been to the country of their targeted "hate". Where do these strong views come from if they haven't been there, and probably have minimal contact with people who have?

Probably comes from the fact that you can't meet North Koreans because the ones who try to leave get shot.

You can meet North Koreans. US media generally doesn't have any interest in meeting them because they don't always answer questions about North Korea in the required way. US media prefers its North Koreans either silent or pitched to them by the wholly funded thinktanks of defense contractors.

Re: Fun with Red Star OS

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Post by pessimizer »

LogonType10 wrote: post #142
typon wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I knew a South Korean prof who chose to live in North Korea (as a philanthropic act) and teach at their top university (His research was in Embedded Electronics). Conversations with him completely changed my mind on North Korea, because prior to that my only context was through American/Canadian mainstream media (read: propaganda). I still think its a dictatorial regime that needs to be abolished and the North Korean…

When people say Hacker News doesn't have an intense bias I'll just link this comment.

The comment where a single person said that they heard that the elites of North Korea have fairly normal daily lives?

Are you saying that HN is biased because they haven't deleted the comment and tried to have the poster arrested for supporting terrorism?

Re: Fun with Red Star OS

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Post by LogonType10 »

pessimizer wrote: post #149
LogonType10 wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When people say Hacker News doesn't have an intense bias I'll just link this comment.

The comment where a single person said that they heard that the elites of North Korea have fairly normal daily lives? Are you saying that HN is biased because they haven't deleted the comment and tried to have the poster arrested for supporting terrorism?

I can link to your comment too where you imply that the bad news about North Korea is just defense contractor propaganda. Thanks!
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