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Re: Fun with Red Star OS

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Post by LogonType10 »

vkou wrote: post #128
echelon wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's absolutely appalling. I used to exempt Microsoft as the "one good MAGMA" under Nadella's leadership, but they're clearly stepping back into evil territory: - stealing your Windows files and secrets - capturing our industry with Github (the development ecosystem is accreting here) - Github Co-pilot training on GPL - Microsoft pay website injection in Edge - heinous Xbox DRM - LinkedIn is still scummy and full o…

> - Github Co-pilot training on GPL Why is training Github on GPL bad, but training a language model on public domain books and texts not? Edit: Thank you for explaining the problem.

Because code derived from GPL code is also GPL. Co-pilot (sometimes) intelligently copies and pastes GPL code.

Re: Fun with Red Star OS

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Post by ttz »

anyone know how get that miller column KFinder app outside of installing RedStar? Don't actually think anything exists like that for Linux (minus Elementary File Manager)

Re: Fun with Red Star OS

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Post by ayushnix »

vkou wrote: post #128
echelon wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's absolutely appalling. I used to exempt Microsoft as the "one good MAGMA" under Nadella's leadership, but they're clearly stepping back into evil territory: - stealing your Windows files and secrets - capturing our industry with Github (the development ecosystem is accreting here) - Github Co-pilot training on GPL - Microsoft pay website injection in Edge - heinous Xbox DRM - LinkedIn is still scummy and full o…

> - Github Co-pilot training on GPL Why is training Github on GPL bad, but training a language model on public domain books and texts not? Edit: Thank you for explaining the problem.

Is CoPilot and its models open source like the GPL software it trains on are?

There's a difference between public domain and GPL. You can do whatever you want with public domain works and nobody can say otherwise. That's not the case with GPL.

Re: Fun with Red Star OS

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Post by hutzlibu »

typon wrote: post #92
emteycz wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it surprising that the top 1% programmers of an entire country (many of them probably with western education) can produce quality software when put under deadly threat?

I knew a South Korean prof who chose to live in North Korea (as a philanthropic act) and teach at their top university (His research was in Embedded Electronics). Conversations with him completely changed my mind on North Korea, because prior to that my only context was through American/Canadian mainstream media (read: propaganda). I still think its a dictatorial regime that needs to be abolished and the North Korean…

"but the day to day life of an average North Korean residing in a large city is not very different than any of us here."

Sure thing, I had to sneak out into the woods as well, to set my black pirated satellite internet connection up.

"Internet access is not generally available in North Korea. Only some high-level officials are allowed to access the global internet.[47] In most universities, a small number of strictly monitored computers are provided.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_North_Korea#Inte..."

Re: Fun with Red Star OS

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Post by laumars »

LogonType10 wrote: post #131
vkou wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> - Github Co-pilot training on GPL Why is training Github on GPL bad, but training a language model on public domain books and texts not? Edit: Thank you for explaining the problem.

Because code derived from GPL code is also GPL. Co-pilot (sometimes) intelligently copies and pastes GPL code.

> Because code derived from GPL code is also GPL.

I’m not happy with the Co-Pilot situation either but for the sake of correctness it should it should be pointed out that your point hasn’t actually been tested in court with regards to machine learning. In fact some lawyers have suggested the GPL might not cover that particular scenario.

Re: Fun with Red Star OS

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Post by lostcolony »

reaperducer wrote: post #117
lostcolony wrote: post #101

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So looking at a document, you'd not be able to know what typewriter it was written from, no. However, looking at a document, you may be able to tell the make and model of the typewriter, due to different typefaces and known mechanical differences across the make/model. That, coupled with a location or list of suspects, would allow you to examine specific typewriters. You may be able to determine a letter was written…

So looking at a document, you'd not be able to know what typewriter it was written from, no. Actually, yes. Typewriters, especially well-used ones develop their own quirks. The "e" is a little higher or lower. The "o" gets a little filled with ink. It's mechanical, so parts wear, things get a bit off, and with enough use, each typewriter develops its own fingerprint. It's been a thing in mystery novels at least back…

Actually, no. If you were to hand someone a typed document, you would not know "Ah-hah. I can tell by the e that is precisely 3 nanometers above the line, and the slight smudging of the ink on the qs, that this was written by Joe Schmoe's typewriter, which I have "registered", but which I otherwise do not have access to". You say it yourself; typewriters "develop" quirks, in addition to any they start with, meaning that even if you had collected samples of every typewriter at the time of sale, and had a way to compare a document against all of them (despite this being pre-computer, given the prevalence of typewriters), you would not be able to find a match.

What -you- are describing, is "Was this particular document written on this particular typewriter", which is possible by comparing it against a document you know to have been written by that typewriter, and which I detail in my answer which you didn't fully read ("That (...) would allow you to examine specific typewriters. You may be able to determine a letter was written from a -given- typewriter").

This is identical to ballistics; finding a fired bullet does not tell you the specific gun that fired it (but may tell you the model/make; certainly, it will tell you the type of ammunition it takes). But if you have a bullet of known provenance (i.e., one you fired from a suspect's gun), you can tell if the markings left on the bullets match.

Re: Fun with Red Star OS

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Post by whimsicalism »

vkou wrote: post #129
whimsicalism wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LOL yeah the US does the exact same thing. I would pay to read a newspaper that (somewhat satirically) reported on the US the way we report on our adversaries. Complete with referring to police as "security forces", including wild speculations about the backstabbing behind-the-scenes of their top politics, etc.

> I would pay to read a newspaper that (somewhat satirically) reported on the US the way we report on our adversaries If you really want this, just start reading foreign news.

I read quite a bit of news, but unfortunately only speak english.

It is not quite the same - newspapers put out in english by foreign adversaries are usually targeting foreign audiences, so they are not written in quite the same fashion as how American outlets describe regimes in other countries.

The closest I've found is SCMP English in Beijing, which (at least for print) is apparently different (and more slanted) than the English version found in the US.

Re: Fun with Red Star OS

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Post by trasz »

sh0 wrote: post #32
iJohnDoe wrote: post #17

Seems more privacy focused than Microsoft and Apple? So sad to even think that. Also, remember that China wouldn’t use Windows 10 due to how invasive the telemetry is unless Microsoft gave them a special version just for China. I’m not saying that NK or China are privacy focused. It seems like even the spies don’t like to be spied on.

As far as I remember the Red Star kernel has a module which modifies all opened images and documents by appending a device fingerprint to the file. In fact it is a chain of fingerprints to trace where the file has been. So not exactly 'privacy focused'.

[citation needed]. That would break a whole lot of things, and the kernel would be a silly place to implement it.

Re: Fun with Red Star OS

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Post by monocasa »

zepto wrote: post #120
whimsicalism wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LOL yeah the US does the exact same thing. I would pay to read a newspaper that (somewhat satirically) reported on the US the way we report on our adversaries. Complete with referring to police as "security forces", including wild speculations about the backstabbing behind-the-scenes of their top politics, etc.

> Complete with referring to police as "security forces", The western press goes in to far more detail about how oppressive, brutal and unaccountable American police are than any other country. There is pretty much an unending stream of criticism of the police. > including wild speculations about the backstabbing behind-the-scenes of their top politics, etc. If you have never seen such speculation about American poli…

Eh, it's not quite the same. There was some foreign paper that described the George Floyd protests as 'tensions continue to rise over the death of an ethnic minority in a agrarian province at the hands of state security forces' that made me chortle when I read it.

Re: Fun with Red Star OS

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Post by stordoff »

capableweb wrote: post #12
vadfa wrote: post #2

Off-topic: the font in this blog renders very poorly. I know the solution is to disable remote fonts in ublock origin, but that means that websites that use fonts to show icons will not work properly. Has anybody found a solution?

Not sure what you mean with "renders very poorly", is it just the font that doesn't look good for you or seems like a bug? This is how it looks for me on Firefox/Ubuntu: https://imgur.com/a/WFx2okh Seems fine, although I'd probably choose a different font myself.

This is what it looks like for me (Chrome/Windows 10): https://i.ibb.co/LgDwp8x/redstar.png

Readable, but looks odd - things like the crossbars on ts look too heavy.

Zooming in slightly clears it up: https://i.ibb.co/5L6R7MF/redstar2.png

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