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Because they spread to the rest of the population. I don’t understand how, two years into the pandemic people are still evaluating whether we should vaccinate people based only off the risk to themselves.
Vaccinated people spread to the rest of the population as well. Don't know why you think vaccination prevents people from spreading COVID-19.
How death rates from Covid-19 differ between vaccinated and unvaccinated
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Re: How death rates from Covid-19 differ between vaccinated and unvaccinated
#52Wow how come the US death rate amongst the unvaccinated is so much higher? It's peaking at 18%. Is that where we would be if there was no vaccine? It would also help to see some data on vaccine effectiveness against long covid. Edit: I need to learn to read more carefully. As others have pointed out it 18/100000. My panic is over.
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe because, even if you are not vaccinated, you have less chance of catching covid if everyone around you is.
OP is asking about survivorship rate of people who get it, not how likely you are to die of covid. Herd immunity shouldn't come into play here.
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because they spread to the rest of the population. I don’t understand how, two years into the pandemic people are still evaluating whether we should vaccinate people based only off the risk to themselves.
Vaccinated people spread to the rest of the population as well. Don't know why you think vaccination prevents people from spreading COVID-19.
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#55It really seems like it's safe to say that a fully vaccinated person's risk of dying from covid is low enough where based on the pre-2020 accepted societal standards for risk there should be next to no behavior modification expected.
Death is not the only bad outcome from COVID, though, so some behavior modification could be justifiable based on risk tolerance.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because they spread to the rest of the population. I don’t understand how, two years into the pandemic people are still evaluating whether we should vaccinate people based only off the risk to themselves.
Vaccinated people spread to the rest of the population as well. Don't know why you think vaccination prevents people from spreading COVID-19.
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#57I don't believe this statistical analysis is proper, because it doesn't take into account the statistical problems highlighted here: https://probabilityandlaw.blogspot.com/2021/11/is-vaccine-ef...
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
We can't move on when a substantial part of the population remains unvaccinated. With hospitals in the brink of collapse, there would be no return to normality any time soon.
> when a substantial part of the population remains unvaccinated It's a vanishing minority of crazies. 99.9% of over 65-year olds have had one jab; 80% of those over 12 [1]. Close to a fifth of the population has had their booster. This debate is over. The people who are left will either be nudged by mandates or self-isolate from areas of dense population or economic activity, which automatically reduces their risk t…
Re: How death rates from Covid-19 differ between vaccinated and unvaccinated
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
We can't move on when a substantial part of the population remains unvaccinated. With hospitals in the brink of collapse, there would be no return to normality any time soon.
> when a substantial part of the population remains unvaccinated It's a vanishing minority of crazies. 99.9% of over 65-year olds have had one jab; 80% of those over 12 [1]. Close to a fifth of the population has had their booster. This debate is over. The people who are left will either be nudged by mandates or self-isolate from areas of dense population or economic activity, which automatically reduces their risk t…
Re: How death rates from Covid-19 differ between vaccinated and unvaccinated
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
We can't move on when a substantial part of the population remains unvaccinated. With hospitals in the brink of collapse, there would be no return to normality any time soon.
Well then make it a law. No amount of reasoning will change these people's mind. The only anti-vax people I've seen get vaccinated are the ones who lost a close one, and even that does not always work, let alone some data viz.
cool. but let us not stop there. there are so many more public health hazards that we can solve that way.