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How death rates from Covid-19 differ between vaccinated and unvaccinated

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Re: How death rates from Covid-19 differ between vaccinated and unvaccinated

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Post by encryptluks2 »

656565656565 wrote: post #24
encryptluks2 wrote: post #11

If you change the age group to the youngest possible, there are times where those dying that are vaccinated actually surpasses those that are unvaccinated. The difference is so low though that I don't understand how it would make sense to vaccinate those under 12. I remember at the onset of COVID-19 that they tried so hard to make everyone scared to death (literally) that they would push videos of people dying in the…

They are another host to store, mutate and retransmit

So are vaccinated individuals.

Re: How death rates from Covid-19 differ between vaccinated and unvaccinated

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Post by steviedotboston »

It really seems like it's safe to say that a fully vaccinated person's risk of dying from covid is low enough where based on the pre-2020 accepted societal standards for risk there should be next to no behavior modification expected.

Re: How death rates from Covid-19 differ between vaccinated and unvaccinated

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Post by encryptluks2 »

deanc wrote: post #23
encryptluks2 wrote: post #11

If you change the age group to the youngest possible, there are times where those dying that are vaccinated actually surpasses those that are unvaccinated. The difference is so low though that I don't understand how it would make sense to vaccinate those under 12. I remember at the onset of COVID-19 that they tried so hard to make everyone scared to death (literally) that they would push videos of people dying in the…

Because they spread to the rest of the population. I don’t understand how, two years into the pandemic people are still evaluating whether we should vaccinate people based only off the risk to themselves.

Vaccinated people spread to the rest of the population as well. Don't know why you think vaccination prevents people from spreading COVID-19.

Re: How death rates from Covid-19 differ between vaccinated and unvaccinated

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Post by hwbehrens »

TigeriusKirk wrote: post #19

Why is the death rate in the US plummeting among the unvaccinated? Is it just less spread all around?

The denominator of the death rate is not COVID cases, it is total population. If the number of COVID cases drops, even if mortality remains constant, then the death rate will also see a concomitant drop. When compared to a graph of the daily cases, the pattern in the parent post essentially matches.

Re: How death rates from Covid-19 differ between vaccinated and unvaccinated

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Post by bastardoperator »

snarf21 wrote: post #4
curiousgal wrote: post #3

I mean can we just get over this already? I feel like the more effort that we spend trying to prove that vaccines work, the more merit the anti-vax movement gains. Can we just ignore those people or simply just laugh at them and move on?

Yeah, it is like posting on Hatebook. Ain't nobody convincing nobody about nothing.

Pretty much this. If the science and deaths aren't compelling enough, nothing will be.

Re: How death rates from Covid-19 differ between vaccinated and unvaccinated

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Post by encryptluks2 »

op00to wrote: post #28
encryptluks2 wrote: post #11

If you change the age group to the youngest possible, there are times where those dying that are vaccinated actually surpasses those that are unvaccinated. The difference is so low though that I don't understand how it would make sense to vaccinate those under 12. I remember at the onset of COVID-19 that they tried so hard to make everyone scared to death (literally) that they would push videos of people dying in the…

Who is “they”, and where were “they” pushing videos? This isn’t Reddit. If you’re going to make outrageous claims like that, you should be prepared to back them up.

They is the media and they were showing videos on news reports of what they stated were COVID-19 deaths of people dropping dead in the streets:

https://observers.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20210506-covi...

Re: How death rates from Covid-19 differ between vaccinated and unvaccinated

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Post by rozap »

TigeriusKirk wrote: post #19

Why is the death rate in the US plummeting among the unvaccinated? Is it just less spread all around?

Probably a few things. Younger people getting it as schools open up, and it has already killed a lot of the people that it was able to kill.

Re: How death rates from Covid-19 differ between vaccinated and unvaccinated

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Post by verdverm »

deanc wrote: post #23
encryptluks2 wrote: post #11

If you change the age group to the youngest possible, there are times where those dying that are vaccinated actually surpasses those that are unvaccinated. The difference is so low though that I don't understand how it would make sense to vaccinate those under 12. I remember at the onset of COVID-19 that they tried so hard to make everyone scared to death (literally) that they would push videos of people dying in the…

Because they spread to the rest of the population. I don’t understand how, two years into the pandemic people are still evaluating whether we should vaccinate people based only off the risk to themselves.

I don't know the answer to this, but how does the total viral shed of a unvaccinated child compare to a vaccinated 60+? Also the viral shed of children compared by vaccine status.

If it turns out the answer is lower and similar respectively, then it would seem vaccination of children makes little difference in the grand scheme.

Two years in and we still make policy with many unknowns. Why don't we have a better understanding of the effects of policies over the last two years? I suspect (hope) we will have a 9/11 style commission in the US to study covid and policy for many years

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