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How death rates from Covid-19 differ between vaccinated and unvaccinated

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Re: How death rates from Covid-19 differ between vaccinated and unvaccinated

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Wow how come the US death rate amongst the unvaccinated is so much higher? It's peaking at 18%. Is that where we would be if there was no vaccine? It would also help to see some data on vaccine effectiveness against long covid. Edit: I need to learn to read more carefully. As others have pointed out it 18/100000. My panic is over.

It's 18/100000, not 18/100

Re: How death rates from Covid-19 differ between vaccinated and unvaccinated

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post #10

Wow how come the US death rate amongst the unvaccinated is so much higher? It's peaking at 18%. Is that where we would be if there was no vaccine? It would also help to see some data on vaccine effectiveness against long covid. Edit: I need to learn to read more carefully. As others have pointed out it 18/100000. My panic is over.

Not 18%. 18 out of 100,000.

Thank you. I read that horribly wrong. That is a relief.

Re: How death rates from Covid-19 differ between vaccinated and unvaccinated

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If you change the age group to the youngest possible, there are times where those dying that are vaccinated actually surpasses those that are unvaccinated. The difference is so low though that I don't understand how it would make sense to vaccinate those under 12. I remember at the onset of COVID-19 that they tried so hard to make everyone scared to death (literally) that they would push videos of people dying in the…

Because they spread to the rest of the population. I don’t understand how, two years into the pandemic people are still evaluating whether we should vaccinate people based only off the risk to themselves.

Re: How death rates from Covid-19 differ between vaccinated and unvaccinated

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If you change the age group to the youngest possible, there are times where those dying that are vaccinated actually surpasses those that are unvaccinated. The difference is so low though that I don't understand how it would make sense to vaccinate those under 12. I remember at the onset of COVID-19 that they tried so hard to make everyone scared to death (literally) that they would push videos of people dying in the…

They are another host to store, mutate and retransmit

Re: How death rates from Covid-19 differ between vaccinated and unvaccinated

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I mean can we just get over this already? I feel like the more effort that we spend trying to prove that vaccines work, the more merit the anti-vax movement gains. Can we just ignore those people or simply just laugh at them and move on?

The article is not "proving vaccines work", it's explaining how some statistics presented in news or social media might be misleading.

Also: no, we can't stop collecting evidence supporting the efficacy of vaccines, because then the anti-vaxxers will scream blue bloody murder about how "there's no evidence."

Re: How death rates from Covid-19 differ between vaccinated and unvaccinated

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The average person (vax or anti-vax) will read this to the end, maybe even understand the numbers but then think "well, but half of COVID deaths are among the vaccinated". 90% of people know that Stats is the hardest math there is and the other 15% don't get it.

Re: How death rates from Covid-19 differ between vaccinated and unvaccinated

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If you change the age group to the youngest possible, there are times where those dying that are vaccinated actually surpasses those that are unvaccinated. The difference is so low though that I don't understand how it would make sense to vaccinate those under 12. I remember at the onset of COVID-19 that they tried so hard to make everyone scared to death (literally) that they would push videos of people dying in the…

Who is “they”, and where were “they” pushing videos? This isn’t Reddit. If you’re going to make outrageous claims like that, you should be prepared to back them up.

Re: How death rates from Covid-19 differ between vaccinated and unvaccinated

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Why is the death rate in the US plummeting among the unvaccinated? Is it just less spread all around?

Maybe because, even if you are not vaccinated, you have less chance of catching covid if everyone around you is.

Re: How death rates from Covid-19 differ between vaccinated and unvaccinated

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I mean can we just get over this already? I feel like the more effort that we spend trying to prove that vaccines work, the more merit the anti-vax movement gains. Can we just ignore those people or simply just laugh at them and move on?

Agreed, convincing people who think the entire thing is orchestrated by dark forces is pointless. At this point, what I'd like to see: a) accept natural immunity alongside vaccination status, probably need some kind of antibody count test for that to work b) "incentives" for vaccinated population, e.g. 90% discount on COVID treatments while unvaccinated pay full price

(b) is really only applicable in countries where universal healthcare is nonexistent.
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